so how do I find a great stove in the off season when I CAN'T find one ever local

[tekguy]

any northern tool stores in your area?
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200394629_200394629


or

http://www.amazon.com/Escape-1800-B...&qid=1372180063&sr=1-4&keywords=Drolet+escape

 

[Jack Fate]

Nope , no closer than 300+ mi

The escape 1800 not in stock on amazon

Was hoping they would have a price

 

[begreen]

Thanks that look just right size wise

WAF can kill it instantly

Going to see if I can see one in person

The one stove shop 70 mi . Away does carry some of this brand

Thanks

I would recommend you get a stove with a squarish firebox. It gives you more options for loading and burning. I think that would be the Eastwood 1800 in the mid-sized Drolet line. Didn' t suggest Drolet due to the WAF comments.

Do you have an Enviro dealer in your area? If so, take a look at the Enviro Boston too.

 

[Jags]

Yes 2/45's Are in the plan , are all double wall pretty much the same or are some better? Anyone chime in on menards dbl . Wall ? It's made in Canada . I have easy access to menards

Not speaking to quality, but one thing to keep in mind - you must stay with the same brand of components. No mix and match. Whatever brand you decide to use, make sure that the place you buy it from carries all the pieces that you will need for your install. Build a shopping list - then shop.

 

[Woody Stover]

You can try it and see how it works. The two, 90 deg turns in the smoke path are what's hurting your height. Hard to avoid these turns with this setup. Perhaps the stove connection could be done with two 45 deg elbows

From the OP's other thread, I think he had the Resolute rear-vented also, so worse than two 90s. It also sounds like he's got 15' from the thimble to the top, plus 30" from the stove to the thimble. If all this is true, I'd think a 6" liner/top-vent setup with the 45s would draw pretty well.

 

[DexterDay]

What county do you reside? Or where is your local Hearth shop?

 

[begreen]

From the OP's other thread, I think he had the Resolute rear-vented also, so worse than two 90s. It also sounds like he's got 15' from the thimble to the top, plus 30" from the stove to the thimble. If all this is true, I'd think a 6" liner/top-vent setup with the 45s would draw pretty well.

That's my hope too. I have a friend running a Summit on a short chimney. His connector goes up about 4 ft, then 45s into the thimble and only about 8' of 8x8 tile liner after that. It's not perfect, but the Summit does surprisingly well considering it is below spec.

 

[Jack Fate]

From the OP's other thread, I think he had the Resolute rear-vented also, so worse than two 90s. It also sounds like he's got 15' from the thimble to the top, plus 30" from the stove to the thimble. If all this is true, I'd think a 6" liner/top-vent setup with the 45s would draw pretty well.

Resolute has 1 \ 90 & is using the out the top option. My Fisher GrandPa has the rear vent discharge & 3 / 90's

 

[Jack Fate]

What county do you reside? Or where is your local Hearth shop?

Toledo , Ohio closest stove shop

 

[aansorge]

Have you tried these guys...(broken link removed to http://toledo.craigslist.org/for/3814710317.html)

 

[aansorge]

(broken link removed to http://muncie.craigslist.org/for/3813014074.html)

Close enough?

 

[Jack Fate]

Have you tried these guys...(broken link removed to http://toledo.craigslist.org/for/3814)

They don't keep their site updated but I may call them

thanks

 

[Jack Fate]

(broken link removed to http://muncie.craigslist.org/for/3813014074.html)

Close enough?

Wife acceptance factor not good

doubt I'll buy used

don't do craigs gas & time seem to end up too much for the uncertainty

don't do e-bay either

 

[begreen]

What did she think of the Alderlea T5 and the Enviro Boston?

 

[Jack Fate]

Today , I touched a Alderlea 4 & a Jotul Rangle ,ranger , you know the one with the grill in it .Funny thing guy gave me all the wrong literature for the stoves I looked at

also looked at a Hampton, regency ( or so I thought ,can not find it in stuff he gave me ) it was a cast iron clad ,steel fire box stove . about 2 cu ft

All looked good got WAF on all 3

Alderlea 4 was a bit small but fits my space the best

ash system on this stove NOT good but the rest SEEMS very good

the jotul has top load like my Resolute WAF+++

things got more parts than I care to see But its a Harley ,I mean Jotul

THe hampton /regency or what ever it was fit the space good also & held longer logs

just an update as I read the other threads that also help & confuse me

Webby dissed some Mennards connector & someone said keep the same brand of pipe ,as I ask if Mennards dbl.wall was any good

As of NOW gonna 6'' flex sleeve the masonry chimney no insulation first!

Rockford smooth flex a good choice???

Think of anything else as the more insight I have the worse it gets

Thanks for the input all

&

as always Cheers

 

[begreen]

The F50 is much larger than the Alderlea T4 and .5 cu ft larger than the Alderlea T5 which is what I would recommend if you go PE. Did you look at the Jotul F45?

 

[Jack Fate]

The F50 is much larger than the Alderlea T4 and .5 cu ft larger than the Alderlea T5 which is what I would recommend if you go PE. Did you look at the Jotul F45?

I looked at at what they had , none of the models you mentioned were there

My space can't handle a larger stove than about 2.0 cu ft & even then it can't be deep

Its in a main walk way & currenty I think the Resoute ain't kosher. Been their since 94 me, since 2005

 

[begreen]

Yeah, that's not much of a hearth, but it can be fixed. Get the right stove for your needs and it will last a long time. The T5 will not be too much stove. It is a very flexible burner and has easy hearth requirements. You will really appreciate having the depth in the firebox. It's much more flexible for loading options.

Is that linoleum or tile flooring?

PS: When taking cell phone pix for posting, hold the camera horizontally or rotate them first on the computer. I'll fix this one for you.

 

[Jack Fate]

Yeah, that's not much of a hearth, but it can be fixed. Get the right stove for your needs and it will last a long time. The T5 will not be too much stove. It is a very flexible burner and has easy hearth requirements. You will really appreciate having the depth in the firebox. It's much more flexible for loading options.

Is that linoleum or tile flooring?

PS: When taking cell phone pix for posting, hold the camera horizontally or rotate them first on the computer. I'll fix this one for you.

Linoleum soon to be replaced with a very hard waterproof laminate

T5 needs 18" on front 7 " rear , if I remember correctly

That puts it to far into the walkway

T5 a deeper stove than the Resoute But can be placed 4" father back

No love for the Rangley?

 

[begreen]

I think the F50 would work, but you expressed concern about going over 2 cu ft.. That's why I asked about the F45. The PE T5 has a unique baffle and secondary air control that gives it exceptionally good burn times. With a lot less moving parts in the long run I think it will be lower maintenance. Another stove you might look at is the Quadrafire Cumberland Gap. It's a front & right-side loader in the 2.0 cu ft range. (broken link removed to http://www.quadrafire.com/Products/Cumberland-Gap-Wood-Stove.aspx)

If you're replacing the flooring this is the perfect time to extend the hearth with non-combustible tile. With planning, it sounds like you might be able to do this so that the tile finishes flush with the laminate flooring. Or you could just nail on a hemmed sheet of copper or stainless as a hearth extension.

 

[Jack Fate]

Ask the engineer guy at that stove shop about putting tile down as a hearth ext as you said . Said I must put down a non comb under layment . That's gonna raise floor there at least 5/8" ??? Maybe more . Is there an under layment strong enough too replace my plywood floor in the hearth area

Oh & my 6-12 k estimate is getting closer

 

[begreen]

He could be right if the laminate is only 3/8" thick. That is why I also suggested the metal. Or you could have the tile hearth extension rise about 1/4" above the laminate, framed in by a beveled surround that ramps the difference between the two surfaces. That could be visually quite nice with the right tile.

 

[Jack Fate]

He could be right if the laminate is only 3/8" thick. That is why I also suggested the metal. Or you could have the tile hearth extension rise about 1/4" above the laminate, framed in by a beveled surround that ramps the difference between the two surfaces. That could be visually quite nice with the right tile.

Seems a lot easier said than done ,


gonna go look for magic wand now

this is in the most traveled path in the house, well into it

may post another pic tomorrow or start new thread titled'' so what do you do here''

 

[begreen]

This is really not a big deal. It's done all the time.

 

[Woody Stover]

This is really not a big deal. It's done all the time.

Yep. Get the right stove, even if the install will be a little tougher. That will be water under the bridge soon, but the stove will be there for many years.