Showin off new Regency i2400 wood insert...

[chazcarr]

On my F2400, I have to get it pretty warm to get secondaries going (Load N-S, bringing the stove up to at least 600 before I start closing down on the air. Usually peaks out at 700-750). After about an hour, get it closed down to 1/8 open and I'll have coals to re-light the next morning after about 9-10 hours. One other thing I've noticed with turning it down.... if I closed the air too quickly (say from 3/4 to 1/2) and it kills the flames, I can open it up all the way to get the flames roaring again, then close it down from full to 1/2 and it'll sometimes kick start the secondaries.

Where do you have your thermometer?

 

[etiger2007]

Im going to try and stuff some Roxul behind my unit tonight and see what happens, mine is also in an exterior chimney.

 

[NE WOOD BURNER]

I have forced hot air furnace in my house. I shut the furnace off when burning wood. I have a switch to run the fan on my furnace. When my wood stove is fired up i turn on the furnace fan and the cold air returns pull the air through the furnace and blows out the primary vents. the furnace does not run so the air out is essentially cold air and moves the heat very well. Same principal as the box fan in doorway pointing to stove.

 

[burnt03]

Where do you have your thermometer?

Centre of stovetop

 

[chazcarr]

Centre of stovetop

Really, and you can get it that hot?

I have mine next to the door handle on the front and it almost never gets over 450.

 

[velvetfoot]

F2400 vs. I2400

 

[chazcarr]

F2400 vs. I2400

Oh see now. Yes the F is better that is for sure.

 

[burnt03]

Whoops, didn't mention it was freestanding.

Don't think it's better, probably the opposite if anything. From what I've read on here, I shouldn't have to get it that hot to get secondaries/a clean burn.

Plus you're measuring at a different place. I'd probably get similar temps if I measured where you do.

 

[etiger2007]

My i1200 is in an outside chimney and putting a good bunch of Roxul behind the insert made a big difference in how much heat comes out into the room (instead of warming my driveway). That in turn means the blower, while it helps, is not mandatory unless it's an especially cold, windy night.

-dan

After reading your post it gave me something new to try. I got home yesterday and pulled the roxul I had insulating the sides of my insert and broke it into pieces (didnt want to unhook the liner and make it more work) and stuffed it behind the insert until it was packed fairley tight (i also removed the surround and burned all night with it off) I started up some kindling around 4pm and put two small splits on top and had to leave until 8:30pm because the kid had two basketball games. Got home around 8:30pm and I was down to coals so i threw some more kindling on to get her going, after that burned down I put five medium size ash splits in at 9:30pm got the stove top to 575 and went to bed. I got up at 4am and the stove top was still at 275-300 and the house temp was at 71, the gas furnance never kicked on either and that was set at 68 degrees. We have had a really cold streatch this week and all week I would wake up at 4-430am and the gas furnance was kicking on for who knows how long, but not lastnight and it was 3 degrees outside. For the first night of trying this I am impressed, I burned all night starting with a very small coal bed too. Today I will be able to burn more because the kids have a day off of sports. I really want to see how it goes when I have a good coal bed and the house it at 75 when I go to bed. I will also see if I can stuff mor roxul back there.

 

[danham]

After reading your post it gave me something new to try. I got home yesterday and pulled the roxul I had insulating the sides of my insert and broke it into pieces (didnt want to unhook the liner and make it more work) and stuffed it behind the insert until it was packed fairley tight (i also removed the surround and burned all night with it off) I started up some kindling around 4pm and put two small splits on top and had to leave until 8:30pm because the kid had two basketball games. Got home around 8:30pm and I was down to coals so i threw some more kindling on to get her going, after that burned down I put five medium size ash splits in at 9:30pm got the stove top to 575 and went to bed. I got up at 4am and the stove top was still at 275-300 and the house temp was at 71, the gas furnance never kicked on either and that was set at 68 degrees. We have had a really cold streatch this week and all week I would wake up at 4-430am and the gas furnance was kicking on for who knows how long, but not lastnight and it was 3 degrees outside. For the first night of trying this I am impressed, I burned all night starting with a very small coal bed too. Today I will be able to burn more because the kids have a day off of sports. I really want to see how it goes when I have a good coal bed and the house it at 75 when I go to bed. I will also see if I can stuff mor roxul back there.

Ed,

Glad it's working for you. One comment, when you say you packed the Roxul fairly tight, in my experience it works better if it is allowed to expand to its natural size, trapping more air. I also use it as a poor man's blockoff plate and on the smoke shelf. The whole setup is getting a good workout (5F last night, only up to 8F at 8:30 this morning).

-dan

 

[etiger2007]

Ed,

Glad it's working for you. One comment, when you say you packed the Roxul fairly tight, in my experience it works better if it is allowed to expand to its natural size, trapping more air. I also use it as a poor man's blockoff plate and on the smoke shelf. The whole setup is getting a good workout (5F last night, only up to 8F at 8:30 this morning).

-dan

I only had a couple inch gap between the insert and the back of the fireplace, so I had to get a chunk of roxul drop it down grab another piece drop it down until I felt like I had a fair amount back there. I did not want to un hook the liner so space was limited. The back of the original fire place tappers back so the bottom of the fire place sits farther back than the top so I know that part should have room for it and shouldnt be crushed, as the fire place tappers up it gets closer to the insert and I know that up by the top of the insert is tighter, if that makes sense. . I also created ablock off plate with the roxul. With your Regency how many logs do you put in and how long do they last? Im interested to she what the wife thought as she was up all night.

 

[chazcarr]

I only had a couple inch gap between the insert and the back of the fireplace, so I had to get a chunk of roxul drop it down grab another piece drop it down until I felt like I had a fair amount back there. I did not want to un hook the liner so space was limited. The back of the original fire place tappers back so the bottom of the fire place sits farther back than the top so I know that part should have room for it and shouldnt be crushed, as the fire place tappers up it gets closer to the insert and I know that up by the top of the insert is tighter, if that makes sense. . I also created ablock off plate with the roxul. With your Regency how many logs do you put in and how long do they last? Im interested to she what the wife thought as she was up all night.

You happen to take any pictures of this process to share?
I am just about to attempt this myself.

Thank You

 

[Mark McKenna]

Actually very interested to see pics as well, anyone have any?

My insert is in the center of the house, should I still roxul in behind or just let it radiate into the spare bedroom behind the fireplace?

 

[danham]

Here's my Roxul setup. I removed all the face plates and trim pieces and had plenty of room to get the insulation in behind the insert. The smoke shelf was more of a "stuff and hope" operation, but seems to be working quite well.

-dan

 

[etiger2007]

You happen to take any pictures of this process to share?
I am just about to attempt this myself.

Thank You

No i didnt take any pics I had to hurry because of the kids schedual. Sorry, I do think it helped.

 

[etiger2007]

Actually very interested to see pics as well, anyone have any?

My insert is in the center of the house, should I still roxul in behind or just let it radiate into the spare bedroom behind the fireplace?

I would probably let it go, my chimney is an exterior chimney.

 

[chazcarr]

Here's my Roxul setup. I removed all the face plates and trim pieces and had plenty of room to get the insulation in behind the insert. The smoke shelf was more of a "stuff and hope" operation, but seems to be working quite well.
-dan

Really Nice! Did it take more than one bag of Roxul for that? Also your liner seems to be attached way better than mine. I just have the three point attachment. Did you find instructions somewhere on how to get the surround and trim off? I have not.

 

[danham]

Really Nice! Did it take more than one bag of Roxul for that? Also your liner seems to be attached way better than mine. I just have the three point attachment. Did you find instructions somewhere on how to get the surround and trim off? I have not.

If I recall correctly it was one bag and maybe part of a 2nd, but I'm sorry to say I can't remember accurately. The liner bolts to a flue adaptor which slides into a recess in the top of the stove. There's a long threaded rod that allows you to first connect the liner to the adaptor, then slide it part way into the stove, then push the stove into the firepalce, pull on the rod from the front, and seat the adaptor then tighten its bolts. I didn't have to touch any of that once I got the trim pieces off, which involved undoing four bolts and a couple of trim clips.

Instructions for all of this were in the owner's manual.

-dan

 

[danham]

I only had a couple inch gap between the insert and the back of the fireplace, so I had to get a chunk of roxul drop it down grab another piece drop it down until I felt like I had a fair amount back there. I did not want to un hook the liner so space was limited. The back of the original fire place tappers back so the bottom of the fire place sits farther back than the top so I know that part should have room for it and shouldnt be crushed, as the fire place tappers up it gets closer to the insert and I know that up by the top of the insert is tighter, if that makes sense. . I also created ablock off plate with the roxul. With your Regency how many logs do you put in and how long do they last? Im interested to she what the wife thought as she was up all night.

Ed,

Sorry, forgot to answer your question about loads. We use the insert to prevent use of the gas hot air furnace when possible, but do not heat exclusively with it. It's a small firebox (i1200) and we can't fit a larger unit like the i2400 in our shallow fireplace. The goal was to retain the "charm" of the fireplace but stop air conditioning the house with it [g] and save on natural gas -- which we have definitely done (basically paid for our wood and then some).

So our stove holds about two or maybe three regular splits and if they are nice and dry and the stove is hot, on a reload with draft turned down we can burn that load for maybe three hours, max. Obviously this is not the right appliance for overnight heating, but we knew that when we bought it and don't use it for that.

-dan

 

[Dieselbreath]

Do you have a picture, or a drawing about the general location of that pencil sized hole? Been looking for it for months. Thanks.

Pull the fan off the bottom front (if you have it). On the right side you will see a rectangular hole about 3x2. You will have to get real low and look inside this hole and you will see another hole almost directly across from the adjustable vent lever. Plug it anyway you can. I suggest a refrigerator magnet. Plugging the hole makes no difference in operation, at least on my stove.
When pushing the fan asm back on make sure it is pushed all the way back so the thermal disk makes good contact with the body of the stove. Good luck.

 

[etiger2007]

Pull the fan off the bottom front (if you have it). On the right side you will see a rectangular hole about 3x2. You will have to get real low and look inside this hole and you will see another hole almost directly across from the adjustable vent lever. Plug it anyway you can. I suggest a refrigerator magnet. Plugging the hole makes no difference in operation, at least on my stove.
When pushing the fan asm back on make sure it is pushed all the way back so the thermal disk makes good contact with the body of the stove. Good luck.

If it makes no difference why plug it? Just wondering

 

[Dieselbreath]

If it makes no difference why plug it? Just wondering

As far as the operation of the stove there is no difference, but this is to eliminate the howl sound that this stove sometimes has if it has a strong draft. Kept me awake until I learned how to correct it.

 

[etiger2007]

As far as the operation of the stove there is no difference, but this is to eliminate the howl sound that this stove sometimes has if it has a strong draft. Kept me awake until I learned how to correct it.

gotcha

 

[velvetfoot]

You can hear this howl over the fan on high?

 

[Ram 1500 with an axe...]

May I ak? What factual difference has this made since doing this? Please explain, Ty....

I pad typing sucks, sorry for typo...