Should dealers increase their prices.......

[sgcsalsero]

On a recent post noted that local supermarket sells a bundle for 3.99 on sale, putting the cord equivalent well north of $500. You don't have to travel to NYC or San Fran, jus go to your local big box or grocery, betcha ya find similar.

 

[bigNATE®]

around here there is no firewood price regulation, sell it for what you can get!

heck in a different thread I posted my last 2-3 months of pricing, the week before christmas I did not want to do work, I wanted to enjoy a week off with the family! so I raised my price to $300 a full cord delivered hopeing that it would stall sales some... that same week a verry large company that has about 45% of the market ran out of wood and everything else besides mine and his was still only a 2-3 month season so what happened? people paid $300 a cord for 18 month seasoned wood and I ran 16 loads, now that the family stuff is over I am back down to $165+ delivery and I am never more then $215 a cord except the week before christmas.

it just varies I guess on what my mood is at the beginning of the week when I list the ad in the local paper, lol

 

[DavidV]

Been warm around here. I've seen prices drop a bit. went from 80 bucks a truck load to 60.

 

[Firewoodguy.com]

Kevin, this is a short version of the current regulation. It maybe the same in your region but enforced to a much greater detail. As a firewood dealer, you do have the option to correct any consumer complaint but you are still charged with a violation of $3,000 first offence, second and third offence is a criminal offence within a ( one or three year period ? ) up to 10,000 fine..


N.H. DEPT. OF AGRICULTURE WEIGHTS & MEASURES LAW REQUIRES: that cordwood (fire wood) must: 1. Be sold by the cord or fraction of a cord; 2. Contain 128 cubic feet per cord when stacked; 3. Be accompanied by sales slip stating the amount of wood sold & the price.
Published In: The Union Leader
on 01/03/2007

FYI; you might allready know; some of you might want to take in concideration in "fluctuating " your prices with out just cause (e.g. known in this region as price gouging). Example; you sell a customer on A street a cord for $150.00 due to the fact you lowered your prices because of lack of sales (e.g. supple and demand). Now the customer on A street tells her friend on C street about the firewood she purchased for $150.00. Then the customer on C street calls the same dealer a few days later, (note; not informing the dealerthat she was refered to by a friend of hers)and now the price is $200.00 because of your so called ( supply and demand theory). She then agrees and you delivery the firewood and you recieve payment for $200.00. Lets say this happen to another friend on J street, and your price is now $175.00. But unaware to you, This person works for Attorny Generals office and setting you up a sting operation and you fall for it. Guess what ? Thats right ! You are going to need a good attorney to get out of that mess, if you get out of it at all. Anyway, Good luck.

Okay, now we're getting down to it. There may indeed be a law, but I'm wondering to what extent that law is actually enforced? Have you known anyone to be fined?

I'm not sure if the "FYI" portion of your post was directed at me, but I'll try and answer it the best I can. The fluctuations I was speaking of are seasonal fluctuations. Certainly selling an identical product to different people for different costs is unethical and illegal... not to mention terrible for your reputation. Being seasonal fluctuations, my point was as a consumer it would be better preceived to have a more consistent price. Notice in my example the cost of a cord for 3 years is the same whether I bought from dealer A or B.

So... just so I have this clear, all things being the same (insurance, storage costs, payroll, etc.) it is the cost of manufacturing that you use to determine seasonal prices?

-Kevin

Definately NOT directed to you at all !! " ................you might allready know........ """SOME OF YOU"""" might want to ...that inconsideration........... "

I now have a better understanding as to your meaning as to "fluctuating" as to off season rates vs seasonal rates . Anyway, there is nothing wrong with that method of "fluctuating". I have seen and heard that people was charged with heavy fines for "price goughing theory", But, not from your definition as to fluctuating prices due to off season vs seasonal prices. I'm glad we got that squared away. Whew !! I think I'm still on parole with the webmaster, gota watch myself on how I reply to post. Oh Well !!.

 

[kevinmoelk]

Definately NOT directed to you at all !! " ................you might allready know........ """SOME OF YOU"""" might want to ...that inconsideration........... "

I now have a better understanding as to your meaning as to "fluctuating" as to off season rates vs seasonal rates . Anyway, there is nothing wrong with that method of "fluctuating". I have seen and heard that people was charged with heavy fines for "price goughing theory", But, not from your definition as to fluctuating prices due to off season vs seasonal prices. I'm glad we got that squared away. Whew !! I think I'm still on parole with the webmaster, gota watch myself on how I reply to post. Oh Well !!.

Probation? Hummm. Well, like it's been said before FWG, everyone has gotten hot under the collar on a forum at one time or another. For the record, I am indeed sorry for the grief I gave you on a previous thread. No hard feelings, just something that happened. It's good to have you and other firewood dealers on the forum as that provides an insight into another side of the business.

-Kevin

 

[Firewoodguy.com]

Greed is good, very good. If you can get away with it, and its legal, go for it. Boutique firewood is a market, so satisfy it. Hell, everything is a market, even weird things like chemical disposal. Look at all the money they made with Chemwaste...

-- Mike

I would call it greed.

You WOULD or you WOULDN'T call it greed ??? Whattaya sayin' ??

I think that was a typo on my part, Its "wouldn't" call.......... I guess you had to be there

 

[Firewoodguy.com]

Definately NOT directed to you at all !! " ................you might allready know........ """SOME OF YOU"""" might want to ...that inconsideration........... "

I now have a better understanding as to your meaning as to "fluctuating" as to off season rates vs seasonal rates . Anyway, there is nothing wrong with that method of "fluctuating". I have seen and heard that people was charged with heavy fines for "price goughing theory", But, not from your definition as to fluctuating prices due to off season vs seasonal prices. I'm glad we got that squared away. Whew !! I think I'm still on parole with the webmaster, gota watch myself on how I reply to post. Oh Well !!.

Probation? Hummm. Well, like it's been said before FWG, everyone has gotten hot under the collar on a forum at one time or another. For the record, I am indeed sorry for the grief I gave you on a previous thread. No hard feelings, just something that happened. It's good to have you and other firewood dealers on the forum as that provides an insight into another side of the business.


Me too, but thats history .... water over the dam. Lets not re-live it. Peace!!
-Kevin

 

[PacificGuyInCNY]

Where'd you get your sense of humor?? K-Mart??
You either gotta let go...or CHECK-IN !!

Try proofreading.

Dylan, what I'm quickly learning to love about you is you're the only guy I know that would get into a p*ssin' contest with a skunk. If you weren't on your school's debate team you shoulda been.

As for the NYC area wood prices - heck back in the late '70s I had a couple acquaintances that would fill up a wood hauler on a Friday, cart it 5 or 6 hours down to the LI Expressway, find a corner lot by an intersection and sell 48" bundles for 70 bucks per. Any math majors out there I'm all ears, but I think that's about 40% of a face cord. Never any problem movin' it all in short order.

 

[MountainStoveGuy]

Greed is good, very good. If you can get away with it, and its legal, go for it. Boutique firewood is a market, so satisfy it. Hell, everything is a market, even weird things like chemical disposal. Look at all the money they made with Chemwaste...

-- Mike

I would call it greed.

You WOULD or you WOULDN'T call it greed ??? Whattaya sayin' ??

I think that was a typo on my part, Its "wouldn't" call.......... I guess you had to be there

Try proofreading.

Dylan, be nice. If you dont have something nice to say then keep it to yourself. Spelling and grammer are not pre reqs for this forum. (obviously). People make mistakes, no need to have that tone.

 

[Mike Wilson]

I had a couple acquaintances that would fill up a wood hauler on a Friday, cart it 5 or 6 hours down to the LI Expressway, find a corner lot by an intersection and sell 48" bundles for 70 bucks per.

If you start at my house, on the eastern tip of the North Fork, and drive 5 or 6 hours down the Long Island Expressway, you are in Baltimore... and I haven't a clue what firewood sells for there! :lol:

As for the spelling, grammar, and wording issues on this board, as much as it pains me so, I've come to the conclusion that many of the people in this industry and hobby are nigh close to illiterate... and as much as I'd love to help people out in their lives by showing them the correct way to spell basic words, to do so would require me buying a new keyboard every other week. You are all on your own... but I can tell you this, Firefox can help some of you immensely.

-- Mike

 

[MountainStoveGuy]

Greed is good, very good. If you can get away with it, and its legal, go for it. Boutique firewood is a market, so satisfy it. Hell, everything is a market, even weird things like chemical disposal. Look at all the money they made with Chemwaste...

-- Mike

I would call it greed.

You WOULD or you WOULDN'T call it greed ??? Whattaya sayin' ??

I think that was a typo on my part, Its "wouldn't" call.......... I guess you had to be there

Try proofreading.

Dylan, be nice. If you dont have something nice to say then keep it to yourself. Spelling and grammer are not pre reqs for this forum. (obviously). People make mistakes, no need to have that tone.

Well, there's a BIG difference between "would" and "wouldn't", and IMNSHO, if one wants someone else to understand what they have to say, they ought to be sure to say what they mean.

the word is not the point. the point is you were being rude. there are nicer ways to say that you made a mistake then "try proofreading".

Mike, people in our industry dont sit infront of a desk writing all day. We dont get alot of pratice writing, but we are a long way from illiterate. I think the information that presented here is way more important then the spelling and grammer.

 

[MountainStoveGuy]

Firewoodguy, lets drop it. No sense in keeping this up. Its a done deal. Im deleting the last post, it will only cause trouble.

 

[Roospike]

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[Mike Wilson]

Roo... don't ya hate it when YOU try to make a point by telling ME that I mis-spelled a word ... only to find that your point is completely lost, because YOU couldn't spell it correctly... ;-P ... Kind of anti-climactic, isn't it.
Oh well, I refer you to my original post on the topic, and your reply to support my point.

Here's a little reference for ya...

All in good fun pal... all in good fun. Nice try though...

-- Mike

PS - Nice edit there!