Sad articles from Greece

[Stella]

do Greeks still smoke Marlboros like mad?

Seems like selling wood by the ton would be an incentive to sell it as wet as possible. Every day it seasons reduces the seller's income. Might be part of their smoke problem.
I will roughly estimate that a ton is about a half cord, but would vary greatly by species.

I have not kept up with this in recent years, but do Greeks still smoke Marlboros like mad? (Stella, that's tobacco smoking). If so, the Medical Association quotes in that news article seem a bit empty.

Yes, they do and it seems anywhere they wish! When we go out to eat, we tend to go early so as to leave before the smokers arrive. A Greek friend told me that Greeks can do what they like which is why Greece is called a democracy. I think he was being serious, no wonder Greece is in a mess. You can barely see across the local cafenion in the winter for the fug of smoke inside.

 

[albert1029]

i like the outdoor cinemas in Greece/Cyprus...has smoke/smog affected them???

 

[nate379]

A cord is 128cu ft of wood. That works out to around 3.5 cubic meters.

It's a much better measuring system for wood versus by weight. Selling by weight would mean green wood would cost more than ready to burn seasoned wood!

i have no idea what a cord is or what a ton of wood looks like but I was told by a Greek lady yesterday that a ton of wood would cost 200€. Very much more than the cost last year. Yet again we have another article on the cost of heating and the problems encountered with poorly ventilated houses and presumably wet wood http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite6_1_24/01/2013_480138

 

[Stella]

i like the outdoor cinemas in Greece/Cyprus...has smoke/smog affected them???

Hi Albert1029 ! don't know because we do not have such facilities in this rural backwater. What we have is a cultural centre which shows a film one evening a week and half way through there is a 15 minute fag break so the watchers do have to go outside to smoke. Very few watchers are Greek incidentally, mainly Brits.

 

[albert1029]

Hi Albert1029 ! don't know because we do not have such facilities in this rural backwater. What we have is a cultural centre which shows a film one evening a week and half way through there is a 15 minute fag break so the watchers do have to go outside to smoke. Very few watchers are Greek incidentally, mainly Brits.

right...Cyprus had a few, their indoor cinemas had ashtrays on the seat backs, they went down the aisles with refreshments at breaks...there were 3 subtitles, actually one was on top - Greek, Turkish, Arabic...went to outdoor cinema in Glifada...amphitheater, Greek tradition...

 

[stoveguy2esw]

hi stella, i have to apologize for breaking form in discussing (though i meant to be apolitical) politics in your thread. i didnt notice until just now you actually live there. great to have you onboard, looking at your avatar looks like you have a beautiful unit to heat with. i love the look of it with that large glass front. my company builds stoves here in the US but we do not export outside of north america. so im curious, what is the model of that stove if i may ask?

 

[Stella]

hi stella, i have to apologize for breaking form in discussing (though i meant to be apolitical) politics in your thread. i didnt notice until just now you actually live there. great to have you onboard, looking at your avatar looks like you have a beautiful unit to heat with. i love the look of it with that large glass front. my company builds stoves here in the US but we do not export outside of north america. so im curious, what is the model of that stove if i may ask?

Hello Stoveguy, no need to apologise! I did ask when I joined if it was OK because I live in Greece most of the time and got a lovely warm welcome! I like the internet because it is non-geographic although I realise that my experiences and even language will be rather different from most of the members. I chose my stove from the somewhat limited selection in Kalamata which is my nearest town, some 40 odd kilometres away and over a mountain range. I picked on size and appearance because having previously had an open fire, I wanted to see the flames as that forms a big part of the winter evenings' entertainment. I also wanted to be as certain as I could that what I was choosing would heat a large, draughty living room with cathedral vaulted ceiling in a stone house with no insulation. I thought what will hold more will hold less, so I choose a Supra Mulhouse which had to be imported from France. It is very basic with just an ash tray and a lever to open the air but thus far I have been very satisfied. The warmth it throws out is great and if I want I can keep it in overnight. Here in Southern Greece we have a short winter but it can be cold though here on the coast rarely below freezing, perhaps just once in every ten years. I burn mainly olive wood from my trees, some pine from a friend's tree which blew down last year in the gales, pine cones to start the fire and a little mulberry. Of course I scrounge any wood I can as like everybody I don't want to spend money! I use the ash to put as fertilizer round the trees so nothing is wasted.

 

[ScotO]

Welcome to the Hearth, Stella. I've read your entire post here and it is sad what Greece has gone through recently......
That's a beautiful region you live in, you DO know we are partial to lots and lots of pictures, right?
Anyway, I don't want to derail your thread, I just wanted to welcome you. By the looks of it, you'll be a welcome addition to this great brotherhood on the forums....and it's nice to have a point of view/perspective from your geographic location!

 

[Stella]

Welcome to the Hearth, Stella. I've read your entire post here and it is sad what Greece has gone through recently......
That's a beautiful region you live in, you DO know we are partial to lots and lots of pictures, right?
Anyway, I don't want to derail your thread, I just wanted to welcome you. By the looks of it, you'll be a welcome addition to this great brotherhood on the forums....and it's nice to have a point of view/perspective from your geographic location!

Hello Scott, thank you for your greeting which I have to say is typical of this forum and far more friendly than other camboards! If I had seen the choice of stoves you guys enjoy I have to say I would not have known what to pick, it was only when I found this forum that I saw the questions I should have asked before I bought, so just as well I was in ignorance. I will try to put a few pictures of our part of the world so you can imagine how we live. The pictures were taken yesterday in brilliant sunshine just above our house which is invisible and show the coast line and my husband adjusting his viewfinder and caves in the mountains where once animals and then Albanians lived. Incidentally from our balcony just now we watched two foxes loping up the hill watched by a buzzard.

 

[ScotO]

Hello Scott, thank you for your greeting which I have to say is typical of this forum and far more friendly than other camboards! If I had seen the choice of stoves you guys enjoy I have to say I would not have known what to pick, it was only when I found this forum that I saw the questions I should have asked before I bought, so just as well I was in ignorance. I will try to put a few pictures of our part of the world so you can imagine how we live.

that's absolutely beautiful over there, Stella! Just as I envisioned it!
As for stove choices, I was the same way. I bought my first 'house' stove several years before ever joining this site. Purely out of luck it turned out to be a good choice, it was used and I got a great deal on it. Since then, I've learned alot of great info from the guys and gals on here, this truly is a warm place to be (no puns intended). You should be fine, as your stove looks like it puts out pretty well. And the nice thing about woodstoves is once you have one installed and the flue correct, you can always upgrade if the current stove doesn't suit your needs.......
Thanks for sharing your pictures, look forward to more in your future posts!