PRICES GOING UP BIG THIS YEAR AGAIN ON PELLETS

[john193]

Thats on the high side for sure. I called my regular dealer for pellets and they are asking 6.25 a bag for country boys (white lightning). It isn't a very common brand on here but the dealer says they are on par with barefoot (and i've burned them and would agree). They currently have a 15 bag limit. They haven't gotten their spring shipment yet so prices are TBD.

 

[Peterfield]

Thats on the high side for sure. I called my regular dealer for pellets and they are asking 6.25 a bag for country boys (white lightning). It isn't a very common brand on here but the dealer says they are on par with barefoot (and i've burned them and would agree). They currently have a 15 bag limit. They haven't gotten their spring shipment yet so prices are TBD.

Agree with Country Boys being on par with Barefoot. $6.00 a bag for Barefoot's at a vendor near me, not sure of the ton price.

 

[moey]

you guys getting a great price on barefoots compared to the hudson valley area.i got 2 quotes on a early buy for barefoots:$340 and $345.okanaga platniums $360 and okie douglas fir $450

Who buys pellets at this price? Someone must be otherwise the manufacture would be out of business and the dealer would not be selling them. Just befuddles me...

 

[JustWood]

Who buys pellets at this price? Someone must be otherwise the manufacture would be out of business and the dealer would not be selling them. Just befuddles me...

You'd be surprised at the # of people who have their oil or gas furnace go down and NOT get it repaired and replace it with a pellet stove. So when prices are high they either have to replace or repair their furnace (BIG $) or bite the bullet on 10 bags of pellets to get them through till spring.

 

[Husky]

Who buys pellets at this price? Someone must be otherwise the manufacture would be out of business and the dealer would not be selling them. Just befuddles me...

I agree. I will stop buying when I have to pay anything at $300 a ton. I started questioning my buy this season at $259.

 

[Jack Morrissey]

I decided to buy early too, got 5 tons in the driveway ready for 2015/16 season, paid $5.05 per bag and that included the delivery charge.

Nice, but what brand may I ask?

 

[lagger]

The FICA tax change was not a tax increase. The reduction should never have taken place. The FICA tax is a dedicated tax that pays for an entitlement. Social Sewcurity is about the ONLY entitlement that beneficiaries actually pay for.

you also pay for medicare .. making SS and medicare not entitlements technically but more of an insurance policy,

 

[lagger]

you guys getting a great price on barefoots compared to the hudson valley area.i got 2 quotes on a early buy for barefoots:$340 and $345.okanaga platniums $360 and okie douglas fir $450

I don't even know where to ask for these in the HV

 

[tjnamtiw]

you guys getting a great price on barefoots compared to the hudson valley area.i got 2 quotes on a early buy for barefoots:$340 and $345.okanaga platniums $360 and okie douglas fir $450

That's insane! Compare your usage costs vs your normal heating system before paying those prices!

http://www.buildinggreen.com/calc/fuel_cost.cfm

You'd have to be paying $4/gallon for fuel oil feeding an Energy Star rated boiler to even equal those douglas fir pellets AND you'd have a space heater with the pellets.

 

[tjnamtiw]

you also pay for medicare .. making SS and medicare not entitlements technically but more of an insurance policy,

I HATE the word 'ENTITLEMENT' as inferred by the bureaucrats as something that they are GIVING us as a freebie. We darn well paid for it over our life span and those scumbags p1issed it away on their pork projects. It's an OBLIGATION, not an entitlement!

 

[rona]

I HATE the word 'ENTITLEMENT' as inferred by the bureaucrats as something that they are GIVING us as a freebie. We darn well paid for it over our life span and those scumbags p1issed it away on their pork projects. It's an OBLIGATION, not an entitlement!

You might also chew over the fact that we paid taxes when we paid ino SS and now when we use it we get taxed again. Wonderful country we live in. No wonder the illegals are running here. Something for nothing all right..

 

[woodmakesheat]

Something for nothing all right..

How do I get this "something for nothing"?

 

[Ambient]

How do I get this "something for nothing"?

INCORPORATE

 

[Old Spartan]

you also pay for medicare .. making SS and medicare not entitlements technically but more of an insurance policy,

Yes ! An earned entitlement. One of the few if not only entitlements that the beneficiary actually funds.

 

[moey]

I thought this was about pellet prices. My dog just farted...

 

[tjnamtiw]

 

[tjnamtiw]

I thought this was about pellet prices. My dog just farted...

It was. Can that fart and save it for the new fart stove.

 

[bogieb]

That's insane! Compare your usage costs vs your normal heating system before paying those prices!

http://www.buildinggreen.com/calc/fuel_cost.cfm

You'd have to be paying $4/gallon for fuel oil feeding an Energy Star rated boiler to even equal those douglas fir pellets AND you'd have a space heater with the pellets.

It is $44.55 / million BTU to heat with propane ($3.11/gal for me). I would have to pay $425/ton to get up to what it costs for propane according to BTU's.

 

[tjnamtiw]

It is $44.55 / million BTU to heat with propane ($3.11/gal for me). I would have to pay $425/ton to get up to what it costs for propane according to BTU's.

Yea, propane is crazy! I don't envy you at all. Usually, when you're on propane, you have no alternatives except maybe geothermal HP, which is super expensive unless you can do the trenching yourself.

 

[kappel15]

OK, your religious, err, political views are crystal clear here. Off to ignore.

Bye

 

[bogieb]

Yea, propane is crazy! I don't envy you at all. Usually, when you're on propane, you have no alternatives except maybe geothermal HP, which is super expensive unless you can do the trenching yourself.

One alternative I have is to replace boiler and hot water heater for oil systems (had that, been hostage to high prices there too). Of course the cost for the new equipment, new tank, and running the new lines would be more than what I bought the Harman for. And even then, at today's price in my town, I would be paying $2 more per million BTU than I currently pay for pellets.

Then I could always put in electric. Only thing attractive about that is I could get rid of all the FHW pipes. But at some of the highest kw/hr costs in the nation (oh look, $61.55/million btu - can you say equal to $700/ton of pellets?), no thanks.

I'm liking the pellet alternative. Of course when I'm 80, it may not still be so attractive to me; trying to stack and move all those bags.

 

[Pellet-King]

I think several have already gotten a delivery of fossil fuels because of the high cost of pellets. Was a report of fuel oil at $2.06
Crude went over $51 this AM

Crude dropped $3.08 Friday, now $48, there's talk of going real low this summer, i'm going to get every oil tank i can find, fill my cellar up with oil tanks, i'm gunna be oil tank man!!, within 20 yr's heating oil will be dirt cheap as everyone by then wil have switched over to NG

 

[tjnamtiw]

One alternative I have is to replace boiler and hot water heater for oil systems (had that, been hostage to high prices there too). Of course the cost for the new equipment, new tank, and running the new lines would be more than what I bought the Harman for. And even then, at today's price in my town, I would be paying $2 more per million BTU than I currently pay for pellets.

Then I could always put in electric. Only thing attractive about that is I could get rid of all the FHW pipes. But at some of the highest kw/hr costs in the nation (oh look, $61.55/million btu - can you say equal to $700/ton of pellets?), no thanks.

I'm liking the pellet alternative. Of course when I'm 80, it may not still be so attractive to me; trying to stack and move all those bags.

The ONLY two heat pump alternatives for you way up there would be the geothermal, which I already spoke of, and the new super high efficiency ductless mini-split HP's, which can put out full rated heat down to 5 degrees. THEN you can turn on the Harman. Since there's no ductwork, no heat is lost there either. AND they are very simple to install and each zone has its own control.

 

[Pellet-King]

How can mini split's work if you close a door off to a room?, might be fine in a living/dining/kitchen, but bedrooms?
You live in Georgia, the winter last's 4-6 weeks and you've been mowing your grass for a month now.

 

[tjnamtiw]

How can mini split's work if you close a door off to a room?, might be fine in a living/dining/kitchen, but bedrooms?
You live in Georgia, the winter last's 4-6 weeks and you've been mowing your grass for a month now.

hahaha. You have the same misconception that I had about Georgia when I moved here! Tonight it's going down to 27. The high here was 42. I just mowed the WEEDS for the first time. Nothing grows in Georgia clay except weeds. It's also impossible to get the color out of your clothes.
As for mini-splits, there's no 'return' air so each room with a unit can be isolated. You could actually (why, I don't know unless your mother-in-law lives with you) have the AC on in one room and heat on in another! Another savings advantage is that you can shut down units in rooms not used or keep them at lower/higher temps depending on the season. Some will even sense if you are still in the room and set the temp back if you leave. Pretty amazing stuff.