A bit odd with all the payback comments. The purpose of lighting is light, not payback. If LED tubes were available when I built my shop 5 years ago, I never would have put in the T8s, which continually degrade in light output. I'm glad I don't have to junk all the fixtures to get the much brighter lighting provided by the LEDs. And if payback is the focus, how about a flashlight for the 3 minutes a day of needed light?