Oh how I need your guidance on this wood burning stove install.... Scan 60.

[begreen]

start with (broken link removed) for prices to compare to your local big box hardware stores. Another website to check is www.hartshearth.com. eBay also has some chimney liner and liner kits that can be attractive. FWIW, Simpson products are what I have installed and I like them. I think BrotherBart has their DuraLiner.

 

[fossil]

FWIW, I've done some online business with hartshearth and found them quite satisfactory, but they're certainly not the only game in town. Rick

 

[sl7vk]

start with (broken link removed) for prices to compare to your local big box hardware stores. Another website to check is www.hartshearth.com. eBay also has some chimney liner and liner kits that can be attractive. FWIW, Simpson products are what I have installed and I like them. I think BrotherBart has their DuraLiner.

So should I go with the double walled Simpson product, or insulated Heat Fab? I'm assuming the double walled Simpson product would suffice?

 

[charlesj]

I don't want to be stealing this thread I can start a new one if wanted. I to will be installing a new wood stove. We bought a Hearth Stone soap stone one. Model is Phoenix. I was told by the place that sold it to me that I needed to use a liner. My fireplace is just 3 yrs old & it has a 12" round flue. A little overkill I guess. The 6" liner that he sold be is not insulated. Do I need a insulated one seeing that it's going into a 12" flue. Never heated with wood before so it will be an experience I guess. It's is just way to much where I live & it's getting higher every day. Any help would be appreciated......

 

[sl7vk]

Well, upon further inspection, I don't think I can get rigid down my flue. There are enough small jobs and bends taht it just isn't going to happen.

Recommendations on flexible Stainless Steel liner's? One that is either pre-insulated or easy to insulate would be great?

 

[sl7vk]

Update....

Boy do I love demo work....

Anyone interested in a large marble slab concealed beneath the old hearth pad?

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[begreen]

Nice find. It would make a great baking center countertop. Put it on craigslist if you don't have a use for it.

No concern about clearance to combustibles when they built that hearth! You will definitely be improving things.

 

[sl7vk]

Nice find. It would make a great baking center countertop. Put it on craigslist if you don't have a use for it.

No concern about clearance to combustibles when they built that hearth! You will definitely be improving things.

I think if I was any good at fabricating stone then I'd keep it....

As it is, I wonder how I can remove it without shattering the thing.... I imagine it's cemented to backer, or something to that effect below. House was built in 53, and I imagine that it's the original Hearth pad.... I'll get a better look by this weekend...

 

[sl7vk]

Nothing like spending your day off chipping away at tile and morter......

Here are some updated pics. Still haven't decided for sure to get the Scan 60.....

I also managed to get the marble up in one piece, but my predecesor, drilled tapcon screws though it..... Plus he left some thinset as well..... I'll have to figure out what to do with it....

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[sl7vk]

Now the wife is leaning toward the Morso 2040..... Jeez, this could get expensive.

My closest dealer is 400 miles away... and doesn't know that the 2040 exists.... He's checking with his regional rep.

Any ideas on what this one costs? 3500 I'm guessing.... Or thereabouts....

Will other Morso dealers ship units to me being that there is nobody with hundreds of miles of Salt Lake City? Any thoughts would be helpfull...... I have no idea how the Scan firebox size matches up to the Morso, being that I can only get two measurements for the Scan, and none for the Morsoe....

Any thoughts would be helpful.....

 

[begreen]

Maybe show her the PE Fusion? It will cost much less and there is a dealer in SLC.

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[sl7vk]

Maybe show her the PE Fusion? It will cost much less and there is a dealer in SLC.

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I think it's slick, wife hates it.....

She's from Europe, so she can spot a wanna be a mile away.....

Uggg..... I'm hoping the price on shipping a Morso to me is so high that she'll just accept the Scan 60 at 2100 bucks.....

 

[begreen]

Proof of the pudding is in the heating. Take her to the stove shop in SLC to see it in person.

 

[sl7vk]

Proof of the pudding is in the heating. Take her to the stove shop in SLC to see it in person.

The "dealer" for PE in salt lake is the same "dealer" hearthstone uses..... An old lady that lives up the street from me. No stoves of either brand in stock, order only. I really liked the Hearthston Bari, and she priced it out for me..... All she has in stock is some weird Amish looking stuff..... Hitzer I think it's called.... http://www.transoceanltd.com/appliances/woodburn.html

Suffice it to say, taking the wife there would be an instant deal killer.

How can Morso not have a freaking dealer in Salt Lake, yet have one in freaking St. George? Winter never gets below 50 down there for Christs sake.....

Any other suggestions on where I can buy the Morso 2040?

 

[begreen]

Does your wife know for a fact that these contemporary designs work as well or better than current North American designs? I've been curious to know about this. So far I haven't found it to be true, but welcome new info.

Hitzer makes good coal stoves from what I've read. But strictly traditional design. You might also check out Wittus and Rais stoves and see what their options and dealer network has. Rais at least has a location in SLC.
http://wittus.com/
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[sl7vk]

Does your wife know for a fact that these contemporary designs work as well or better than current North American designs? I've been curious to know about this. So far I haven't found it to be true, but welcome new info.

Hitzer makes good coal stoves from what I've read. But strictly traditional design. You might also check out Wittus and Rais stoves and see what their options and dealer network has. Rais at least has a location in SLC.
http://wittus.com/
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My wife wants a nice piece of furniture. She's perfectly happy with great ambiance and the 95% efficiency nattie gas furnace doing the rest....

Went to the Rais dealer, and their prices were through the stratosphere. 4k for a base model with a tiny firebox.
Wittus was better IMHO, and remains a distinct opportunity.
My preference would be the Scan, but I don't really make these types of decisions....

I imagine that one couldn't get prices for the 2040 online, or buy online or anything to that effect then?

 

[begreen]

You have my utmost sympathy but I am afraid that this is not a logical discussion. It comes down to the eye of the beholder.

I've never seen Morso sold online. You might try an adjacent state if that city is closer than St. George. Jotul also makes a contemporary line. Maybe order from the UK? %-P

 

[sl7vk]

Yeah, logic.... It always has to come down to that.....

 

[sl7vk]

Stove is ordered!

Morso 2040.

The St. George Morso dealer found it and priced it out delivered.... including taxes at 3125. Not bad at all....

Apparantly Morso is dicontinuing the 2040..... I got the last unit the Western Region.... apparantly....

Morso says they guarantee that they'll make parts 10 years after they discontinue a model, so I'm not too worried in that regard....

Now I just need to build a hearth..... Shelves..... all the rest..... and start looking at buying some wood!

 

[sl7vk]

Stove arrived. Love it even though I haven't burned in it.

500 pounds was the shipping weight. It took me and 3 solid buddies to move the bastard from the shipping depot to my house.

My friends S10 Chevy also helped in the matter.....

Now..... to build a hearth, line the chimney and build shelving.......

Oh and finding some wood to burn as well...... Yikes....

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[BrotherBart]

Now..... to build a hearth, line the chimney and build shelving.......

Oh and finding some wood to burn as well...... Yikes....

Well heck you are almost done. 8-/

Nice looking stove.

 

[begreen]

I like it, nice clean lines. Is the wife happy with it too? That stove is going to look great installed.

Suggestion - as much as you are itching to clean up the mess in the room. Get cracking on the wood. You have a good 2-3 months to install the stove, but the wood may need some more drying. Get it now and stack it in preparation for what winter brings. Then jump back to the stove in a few weeks.

 

[sl7vk]

I like it, nice clean lines. Is the wife happy with it too? That stove is going to look great installed.

Suggestion - as much as you are itching to clean up the mess in the room. Get cracking on the wood. You have a good 2-3 months to install the stove, but the wood may need some more drying. Get it now and stack it in preparation for what winter brings. Then jump back to the stove in a few weeks.

The wife loves it, and so to do I.

We'll see how it burns, but I'm pretty confident Morso makes a good product.

As for the wood, I think I'm going to take you up on your suggestion..... I've made about 15 phone calls today. Best price was 170 a cord for mixed hard and soft, or 250 a cord of hardwood (both delivered).

I have no idea how much I should buy vs scavenge..... or how much I'll need.... But this is how we find these things out.

Here in Utah, you can buy a logging permit and cut down up to 2 cords of wood for 10 dollars per year. I'll start cutting this fall, and that will be for 2009/10.... But this winter, we'll have to make do.

 

[sl7vk]

I like it, nice clean lines. Is the wife happy with it too? That stove is going to look great installed.

Suggestion - as much as you are itching to clean up the mess in the room. Get cracking on the wood. You have a good 2-3 months to install the stove, but the wood may need some more drying. Get it now and stack it in preparation for what winter brings. Then jump back to the stove in a few weeks.

Ok, I found 170 a cord for mixed 2 year seasoned hardwood.... delivered.

Truck comes tomorrow. I think this is a good deal for my neck of the woods.... so to speak.

I'm not really sure how much wood I need..... It doesn't get too cold out here, and I do have forced air natural gas to supplement. I think 2 cords + some scavanging and I'll be fine, but we'll find out.

 

[sl7vk]

Ok, I've got 2 cords of seasoned hardwood stacked in the shed, about 1/2 a cord that needs to be cut in my driveway (crappy green aspen, but oh well....).... and I'm making some progress on the hearth.

Now to decide what kind of flex liner to buy.....

Ventinox, HomeSaver Ultra Pro or the ebay stuff (Rockford etc...)....

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