What are your opinions on plumbing OAK from basement? I have split faced block home and dont want to go through the block. Going vertical is no good, so I thought "why not go through the floor int othe basement"?
forya said:I was talked out of an OAK from my installer, because it brings moist air in from the outside, and that promotes rust.....
forya said:I was talked out of an OAK from my installer, because it brings moist air in from the outside, and that promotes rust, so it is just sucking air from the house. Does the OAK have advantages? My fire seems to be burning fine, would it burn better with an OAK?
forya said:I was talked out of an OAK from my installer, because it brings moist air in from the outside, and that promotes rust, so it is just sucking air from the house. Does the OAK have advantages? My fire seems to be burning fine, would it burn better with an OAK?
Turbo-Quad said:What are your opinions on plumbing OAK from basement? I have split faced block home and dont want to go through the block. Going vertical is no good, so I thought "why not go through the floor int othe basement"?
lordgrinz said:Well is there any proven tests done by a qualified testing facility that can prove how much more efficient an OAK being installed would be? In my case it just didn't make sense because the stove is venting out a chimney that is in the center of the house, only option would be to drill a hole in my hardwood floors and run thru the basement to an outside wall or basement window.
Turbo-Quad said:What are your opinions on plumbing OAK from basement? I have split faced block home and dont want to go through the block. Going vertical is no good, so I thought "why not go through the floor int othe basement"?
save$ said:When you are near the outside exhaust pipe of your pellet stove, you can detect a steady breeze of air being blown outside. Unless you have OAK installed, that air came from within your home. It was air you paid to heat, then allowed it to be sucked up into the stove for combustion and blown outside. Now what replaces the air in the home that was used by the stove? Right! Cold outside air being sucked in around your windows, doors or leaky sills. All this air being sucked in creates a draft. So now you have cold drafty floors making you uncomfortable and you have spent more money to heat it up only to let it be sucked right outside again. It's comparable to leaving the bathroom exhaust fan running 24/7, or to having an open window with an exhaust fan running.
I don't know of any, except that they are consistently recommended in the installation section of the stove's manuals. I don't want to sound smug, but I don't need a qualified testing facility to tell me I need to stop air leaking in my home when I am trying to heat it. Remember that volume of air being exhausted by a blower out of your stove all came from inside your home when you don't use OAK. You are blowing heated air out of your home and sucking in all of that same volume of cold outside air though any means it can. If you have an older home, chances are it has an abundant source of natural drafts so your pellet flame is good. If you have one of the newer, more air tight homes, the volume of leaking air may be minimal. Your flame may be lazy. In that case, I would worry that the stove was using air that I needed to breath. OAk will improve both the heating of the air, and not compete for the available air inside the home.lordgrinz said:Well is there any proven tests done by a qualified testing facility that can prove how much more efficient an OAK being installed would be? In my case it just didn't make sense because the stove is venting out a chimney that is in the center of the house, only option would be to drill a hole in my hardwood floors and run thru the basement to an outside wall or basement window.
save$ said:I don't know of any, except that they are consistently recommended in the installation section of the stove's manuals. I don't want to sound smug, but I don't need a qualified testing facility to tell me I need to stop air leaking in my home when I am trying to heat it. Remember that volume of air being exhausted by a blower out of your stove all came from inside your home when you don't use OAK. You are blowing heated air out of your home and sucking in all of that same volume of cold outside air though any means it can. If you have an older home, chances are it has an abundant source of natural drafts so your pellet flame is good. If you have one of the newer, more air tight homes, the volume of leaking air may be minimal. Your flame may be lazy. In that case, I would worry that the stove was using air that I needed to breath. OAk will improve both the heating of the air, and not compete for the available air inside the home.lordgrinz said:Well is there any proven tests done by a qualified testing facility that can prove how much more efficient an OAK being installed would be? In my case it just didn't make sense because the stove is venting out a chimney that is in the center of the house, only option would be to drill a hole in my hardwood floors and run thru the basement to an outside wall or basement window.
j-takeman said:One of the best things you can do to combustion is feed it fresh cool air. Ask any engine tuner. Drag racer or hot rodder. Cool dense air is loaded with oxygen! Now lets not start the OAK debate all over again. Its been known to start flaming wars. Do a search here and you can get more info than you may really want. Its been beaten to death here on many many threads!
lordgrinz said:j-takeman said:One of the best things you can do to combustion is feed it fresh cool air. Ask any engine tuner. Drag racer or hot rodder. Cool dense air is loaded with oxygen! Now lets not start the OAK debate all over again. Its been known to start flaming wars. Do a search here and you can get more info than you may really want. Its been beaten to death here on many many threads!
We need a guinea pig to run their stove, with and without an OAK, then show us results ;-)
j-takeman said:lordgrinz said:j-takeman said:One of the best things you can do to combustion is feed it fresh cool air. Ask any engine tuner. Drag racer or hot rodder. Cool dense air is loaded with oxygen! Now lets not start the OAK debate all over again. Its been known to start flaming wars. Do a search here and you can get more info than you may really want. Its been beaten to death here on many many threads!
We need a guinea pig to run their stove, with and without an OAK, then show us results ;-)
geo and I both discused this topic and found very minimal difference in the output temp of the stove convection air. I had planned to measure the exhaust temp to see if it changed. maybe this season.
guinea pig. Well I am a lottle(more than a little) chunky! %-P
lordgrinz said:j-takeman said:lordgrinz said:j-takeman said:One of the best things you can do to combustion is feed it fresh cool air. Ask any engine tuner. Drag racer or hot rodder. Cool dense air is loaded with oxygen! Now lets not start the OAK debate all over again. Its been known to start flaming wars. Do a search here and you can get more info than you may really want. Its been beaten to death here on many many threads!
We need a guinea pig to run their stove, with and without an OAK, then show us results ;-)
geo and I both discused this topic and found very minimal difference in the output temp of the stove convection air. I had planned to measure the exhaust temp to see if it changed. maybe this season.
guinea pig. Well I am a lottle(more than a little) chunky! %-P
I was thinking the only difference would be when the stove is trying to run at max output, but only if there was a limited amount of air without the OAK. Since I believe my stove adjusts itself at lower heating temps, I can't see where it would make much difference. Especially if the installer tested intake volume of air during his install and test run. Usage of pellets may change, but thats hard to test without exact conditions outside over the same period of testing time.
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