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Thanks for the Sweep' Library... infos, very interesting.
Thanks for the Sweep' Library... infos, very interesting.
New Install: Pacific Alderlea T6 or Jotul F55
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Sean in the woods
Burning Hunk
Don’t look past the F55, I have it’s smaller brother the F45 and love it. No problem with overnight burns even with softer woods like Aspen. It also has a good cooking surface, glass stays clean, stainless baffle system and reversible flue collar if you need a rear venting stove.
BKVP
Minister of Fire
Don't discount low and slow. We save on our NG bill every winter by using our King when it's 55F and colder. You can put in 90lbs (King model) and operate it like a crock pot. The thermostat provides even heat for the entire load, based upon how high or low it is set. No need to limit amount of fuel added.
I don’t discount it at all!! In fact I want a bk princess, but my wife really wants a non cat stove to see the flames as much as possible all the time. Plus she’s used to using a non cat stove.
How do I convince her?
Either way I gotta decide pretty soon. I’d like to get this installed well before the autumn when things get crazy for all things wood burning.
They have a heat pump system that easily covers this need better than a wood stove. This is not the place for the VP to be promoting their product. Revisit the house rules.
BKVP
Minister of Fire
Perhaps I should have noted there are other units that can also provide low & slow burns. Kuma, Hearthstone all make great low and slow options....I have always advocated for options to those looking for a wood stove or insert...my past posts speak to that.
Perhaps?
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Update: Looks like I can get a PE Alderlea T6 with in 2 weeks turn around.
Now we need to sort out where the pipe will exit the roof and bring in the interior ceiling around the trusses and if any bends will be needed.
The challenge I’m having envisioning is how to line up where the ceiling transition happens with where the stove will sit and then be able to build a raised hearth pad for it. Seems it would make sense to do ceiling transition first then drop a plumb bomb down to find stove outlet Center.
Super excited to have a wood stove coming! Gotta go get some firewood now, we’ll , once it finally rains. I’ve got a cord and half stored at a friends place that we took with us when we moved!! I’ll have to retrieve that and help him replenish.
Anyway, any thoughts on install and lining up the ceiling with outlet Center with minimal bends and keeping clearances?
Now we need to sort out where the pipe will exit the roof and bring in the interior ceiling around the trusses and if any bends will be needed.
The challenge I’m having envisioning is how to line up where the ceiling transition happens with where the stove will sit and then be able to build a raised hearth pad for it. Seems it would make sense to do ceiling transition first then drop a plumb bomb down to find stove outlet Center.
Super excited to have a wood stove coming! Gotta go get some firewood now, we’ll , once it finally rains. I’ve got a cord and half stored at a friends place that we took with us when we moved!! I’ll have to retrieve that and help him replenish.
Anyway, any thoughts on install and lining up the ceiling with outlet Center with minimal bends and keeping clearances?
Good deal. Use a cardboard mockup of the stove foot print, or the whole stove. Mark the flue outlet center on the cardboard. Then get up on a ladder with a plumb bob to hone in the exact location.
Thankyou. Good idea with the mock up. It will help with hearth construction too and clearances.
Ok more thoughts , would love everybody’s feedback….
With my corner install hearth I am building I’m considering how much height to give it.
I am open to anything from almost flush with floor to 8-12” of rise. I’ve always fancied being able to sit on the edge of the raised hearth.
Tell me about your hearth heights and things you love like or hate about them or things you wished you had considered when making them ( or if you could change it ). Thanks all.
With my corner install hearth I am building I’m considering how much height to give it.
I am open to anything from almost flush with floor to 8-12” of rise. I’ve always fancied being able to sit on the edge of the raised hearth.
Tell me about your hearth heights and things you love like or hate about them or things you wished you had considered when making them ( or if you could change it ). Thanks all.
My height is 1.5" or so (from the pad). I have a stepping stool of 8-10" tall in front of it that I sit on. I'd like it to be 16" tall.
So yes, if you can raise the stove by a foot or so (and you can given that you don't have a thimble height set but go straight up and out), I would. Then whether you can sit on it depends on how wide the raised hearth is - sitting too close to a running stove can give you sun (stove) burn....
So yes, if you can raise the stove by a foot or so (and you can given that you don't have a thimble height set but go straight up and out), I would. Then whether you can sit on it depends on how wide the raised hearth is - sitting too close to a running stove can give you sun (stove) burn....
Good point. 12" seat is not the most comfortable to sit on or get up from. Typical seating height is 16-18". That would put the stovetop at about 46-48" " which is a bit tall, especially if one expects to be using it for cooking. It might be better to situate a comfortable chair or rocker close by.
EbS-P
Minister of Fire
With a fire roaring you can sit there for maybe 5 minutes right in front of the stove. Mine is 12” off the floor with short legs and I kneel on the floor to load it.
with the front 16” clearance, raising means you loose some floor space. I like having it raised as it makes a natural “safety” buffer when you walk by/ around especially with kids. Probably not as useful in a corner.
could be neat to have raised portion just under stove the. Flush “ish”to meet clearance out front. If have taped out the pad you’ll know how much room that would make / save. Would make cooking on a raised stove easier as you could walk right up to it. Also it would visually look like it’s tucked into the corner better.
Many years back a nice lady had a raised hearth welded up out of metal for her F3CB. It raised the stove enough that she could store wood under the hearth.
Ok, well life gets busy as we all know and curve balls come and go. We never did install the T6…..but it’s finally happening. It’s paid for and install will be next week. VERY happy to be finally doing this. I’m about to get our hearth pad done. The installer quoted the hearth needing to be ( at a minimum …) 52 deep by 43 wide.
When I do the math of the stove width at 29 1/4 plus 8 inches on both sides ( we are in Canada ) I get 45 1/4 for width. My thinking is I dont need to include the cast iron panels of the t6 as the embers reside inside the steel firebox, thus reducing the width in my equation.
Thanks all for any insight here. FYI I trust our local installer, he gets good reviews from people I trust in town. It’s a small town, about 4,000 people so those reviews carry some weight. Anyway just want to confirm 43 wide by 52 is acceptable, as I’m about to commit to an inset tile hearth in my hardwood floors.
When I do the math of the stove width at 29 1/4 plus 8 inches on both sides ( we are in Canada ) I get 45 1/4 for width. My thinking is I dont need to include the cast iron panels of the t6 as the embers reside inside the steel firebox, thus reducing the width in my equation.
Thanks all for any insight here. FYI I trust our local installer, he gets good reviews from people I trust in town. It’s a small town, about 4,000 people so those reviews carry some weight. Anyway just want to confirm 43 wide by 52 is acceptable, as I’m about to commit to an inset tile hearth in my hardwood floors.
I forgot to update as well, we have abandoned the corner install and we are centring it on big wall in the living room as the room centerpiece.
download the manual... it'll tell you exactly how far from which point on the side you need a noncombustible hearth.
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So, 43" is correct - but you have to exactly center the stove to meet requirements.
Having an inch or so extra on each side is what I would do, if possible.
If not, just make sure to properly center the stove on the pad. (i.e. center the pad exactly below the stove pipe).
Laser cross levels are handy there.
page 12 says:
So, 43" is correct - but you have to exactly center the stove to meet requirements.
Having an inch or so extra on each side is what I would do, if possible.
If not, just make sure to properly center the stove on the pad. (i.e. center the pad exactly below the stove pipe).
Laser cross levels are handy there.
Howdy. Thanks for the super quick reply. I do have manual, hence my numbers quoted above in my post. What you’re saying makes sense, thankyou. I’m just trying to reconcile the fact that the diagram shows the stove ( 29 1/4 ) plus 8 inches on each side. That comes out to
45 1/4 total. 44 is a perfect fit for what we want / need. I just don’t want to be off by 1 1/4 inches if that’s what needed. I’m probably overthinking it. It says 43 is the min.
45 1/4 total. 44 is a perfect fit for what we want / need. I just don’t want to be off by 1 1/4 inches if that’s what needed. I’m probably overthinking it. It says 43 is the min.
EbS-P
Minister of Fire
The swing out top seems to stick out a bit from the sides. That maybe the discrepancy. I’d make it 44” wide.
Awesome , I’m really excited to get back into the burn. I actually went to look for another Enviro , ( our Kodiak 1700 insert was just awesome) wanting a Boston 1700 freestanding ., and learned they don’t make wood burners anymore. Too bad! I would’ve bought one for sure.
The T6 looks great and has a stout following and good reviews. I’m very happy to be moving forward with it. I’ll be reporting all the nuances here once we are done install and are burning.
The T6 looks great and has a stout following and good reviews. I’m very happy to be moving forward with it. I’ll be reporting all the nuances here once we are done install and are burning.
Enviro did make a larger step top free standing too, for a short while anyway, the 2100. It had double layer brick interior. Looked like a good stove. That would have been a good model for our place now too. They were nice stoves. I guess they felt they didn’t need the wood burners in the lineup. Our Kodiak had a great secondary burn, and a 2.5 cu ft firebox. We looked at the t5 but I wanted the 3.0 cu firebox and we have high 12 foot and 9 foot ceilings so the extra cu ft will be great when the temps dip in the -20 C and it gets windy here too. Brrrrr.
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