iceman said:
apples and oranges yes
however they are a much bigger company and it seems they ran into so of the same issues
But pelletsales dealt with it in a radically different way. They actually talked to their customers, they didn't charge the credit cards, they stopped taking new orders. Wow, how about that for a novel business approach - don't sell something you don't have and don't take people's money when you can't get them what they bought.
and i am sure if your phone was ringing all day eventually you get frustrated and dont answer either.. just look at how long this thread is and this is prolly not even 5% of the people calling!! He made a mistake period thats it... i just hope he can get the pellets delivered before it really gets cold...
He didn't make a mistake, he made dozens, hundreds of them. Every single time he told someone they were getting their order "this week", every time he told someone he wouldn't charge their card until they shipped while knowing the charge had already been processed, every time he deleted the emails without answering...he was making "a mistake" over & over & over again.
How many of those calls would have not been made if he were up front and honest? The calls are because he didn't answer the phone, because he lied about deliveries and charging for product before delivery. As people have noted, they've had to call dozens of time. So, if he was overwhelmed by the phones ringing it was because he was getting dozens of times more calls than he would have had he just been straight with people.
but like i mentioned before... this guy was WAY cheaper than anyone ...
so he didnt have enough staff to answer phones and emails that was how he was going to save everyone money...
charging your card seems to me that he was new/ and didnt want to take a loss..
He wasn't new - he's been in business for over a year. Besides, that justifies fraudulent business practices? You seem to have an incredibly low ethical threshold for the businesses you deal with. Hope it works out for you.
looks like he will lose a lot business next but seeing how long this thread is....
wonder how many people ordered that dont visit us...
Are you suggesting that the business he loses here isn't material because lots of other people haven't read this so can still be suckered?
i would bet he is trying to deliver 30000+ tons and can only get truckloads from new england pellet of 22 a truck hell say 10000 and got 4 trucks a week how long would it take to get to 10000?
Maybe, but logistical planning is part of owning a business. At best he's a lousy businessman and should close the doors. At worst he's a crook and should close the doors. In either case, he probably should get the heck out of the business. Unless of course he believes in Barnum's old adage and figures there are still plenty of suckers left out there.
Honestly, your ongoing defense of this guy smacks of some sort of relationship. Maybe you could suggest that he be a standup guy and fly right from now on. (Nice to see that 4 months after his business imploded he's decided to stop taking orders...if that's true in fact, hard to believe considering his stories' track record of honesty so far.)