Nope haven't had time been researching how englundar stove are made. Some top notch stuff there.will get to it when it's cold
I converted my in-laws from a cheap HD stove to a Harman 52i
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Polar Bear
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...but, but, but it's a Harman... doesn't matter if it's never been turned on... it's the best
...but, but, but it's a Harman... doesn't matter if it's never been turned on... it's the best
My wife used to say the same about me!
AND they are more expensive to get repaired! After 8 years learning how to fine tune the Englander, I'm surprised that they got sucked into buying an overpriced Cadillac instead of fixing what is wrong with their present stove.
This forum is being infested with overzealous Harman owners who are turning off a lot of potential pellet burners by telling them that, unless they are willing to spend $5000, they won't be happy. That simply is not true.
On another note, I would love to see any substantiation to the claim that softwood pellets are the best and hardwoods don't have the heat output. That claim was made above. I'm throwing the BS flag on that one since all the pellets are around 8000 to 8700 btu's per pound. It just depends, as I've said before, how densely packed the pellets are. You might get more heat out of 1 pellet than another but you will have fewer pellets per pound. Pretty simple if you take the time to think about it. That's why Quads let you adjust the feed gate to get the correct flame height on high. That ensures that you are getting the correct btu's per hour. If you throw a less dense pellet into a stove and don't change anything, you WILL get less heat out unless you up the feed rate to put the same POUNDS PER HOUR through it. I've had pellets where a bag would fill four of my buckets that I use for transport to the stoves and I've had bags of pellets that would only fill three buckets. Same 40 pounds in both bags but if you don't change the feed rate you are not feeding the same pounds per hour.
EXACTLY! Sane people buy a stove that is within their budget, has good ratings (filtering out the BS 'Mine is bigger than yours' comments), has a reputable, dependable nearby dealer, available parts (they ALL break down), fulfills their aesthetic expectations, and they are capable of maintaining and troubleshooting problems. All the rest is just 'fluff'.Except for the implication that people buy a particular stove just because they can't afford a different brand. Bound to be many but I know one case where that ain't true.
You don't have to spend $5000 to be warm OR happy. If it makes you happy to spend that much, then more power to you. I'm retired and I'd rather spend the difference on FOOD!
Only reason Harmon is so good is Whitfield is out of business!!
Lake Girl
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FYI http://woodpellets4me.com/pdf/2011-2012-PelletReview.pdf I think Jay added burn time farther along in his testing... also adjusted for best burn (testing methodology around page 19 or 20). You ignored your own statement ... less dense pellet. I had trouble with bridging due to less dense pellets (Trebios) which required a little more babysitting on my part. Never had that problem with the softwoods... Heartlands, Spruce Pointes.
dlavigne7324
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Just to let u know Home Depot around here just got blazer pellets Douglas fir .. Those must be junk if Home Depot got them. .. LolFYI http://woodpellets4me.com/pdf/2011-2012-PelletReview.pdf I think Jay added burn time farther along in his testing... also adjusted for best burn (testing methodology around page 19 or 20). You ignored your own statement ... less dense pellet. I had trouble with bridging due to less dense pellets (Trebios) which required a little more babysitting on my part. Never had that problem with the softwoods... Heartlands, Spruce Pointes.
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dlavigne7324
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apandori
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Well, I don't have much experience with stoves, but so far the Englander has done a better job heating than I thought it would since we put it in the basement. House has been between 68-72 and it hasn't been set over 3 at all and pretty much has been set at 1 or 2. I'm confident at this point when the real cold comes I won't have to max it out all the way.
we've had a couple overnights in the high 20s and plenty in the low 30s so far. The test will get better as we're only getting highs in the low 50s now.
we've had a couple overnights in the high 20s and plenty in the low 30s so far. The test will get better as we're only getting highs in the low 50s now.
CTguy9230
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Well, OK, as long as you don't judge all people from Maine by what Mike Michaud sez..........
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Phoenix Hatchling
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I ignored my own statement? Which one, LG? Bridging happens with LONG pellets and not less dense ones. Of course, if the pellet maker doesn't compensate for less dense pellets, then they WILL be longer assuming he's putting the same lbs/hr through the die. I had bridging with very long pellets if you look at some of my earlier comments from a few years ago about Carolina Wood Products crap.FYI http://woodpellets4me.com/pdf/2011-2012-PelletReview.pdf I think Jay added burn time farther along in his testing... also adjusted for best burn (testing methodology around page 19 or 20). You ignored your own statement ... less dense pellet. I had trouble with bridging due to less dense pellets (Trebios) which required a little more babysitting on my part. Never had that problem with the softwoods... Heartlands, Spruce Pointes.
Just old and senile. More of an Animals and Rolling Stones kinda guy from my Navy days long, long ago.
Shhhhhh still researching how englundar stoves are the best?...but, but, but it's a Harman... doesn't matter if it's never been turned on... it's the best
Jealousy won't buy ya a harman[quote="JDenyer236, post: 1793488, memb
I have a (1977) Mercury Bobcat for sale, only asking $ 45,000...One born every minute...Don't get upset (only kidding)...I'm no mechanic, just love to give people a 1/4 turn
Just wondering why these guys decided to up grade since they already possess the best stove on the market not sure why they would want a harman?just asking
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