Hurricane Sandy
- Thread starter thewoodlands
- Start date
-
Active since 1995, Hearth.com is THE place on the internet for free information and advice about wood stoves, pellet stoves and other energy saving equipment.
We strive to provide opinions, articles, discussions and history related to Hearth Products and in a more general sense, energy issues.
We promote the EFFICIENT, RESPONSIBLE, CLEAN and SAFE use of all fuels, whether renewable or fossil. -
Super Cedar firestarters 30% discount Use code Hearth2024 Click here
- Status
![[Hearth.com] Hurricane Sandy](/talk/data/attachments/79/79215-032039057294b1f200f41a5341aa2f10.jpg?hash=JWH_lEn9k4)
I would not believe anything from NYC other than that it is bad and getting a lot worse there. LOTS of flooding. I am getting reports from a police scanner ap that my brother has on his Ipad, set to Manhattan. The cops are reporting water everywhere up to rooftops of cars from the Battery up to Canal street. Alarms are going off at Louis Vitton, but no one can get there. People are stuck in elevators all over the place, subways are flooded, and panic is setting in. The cops are also giving each other their cell phone numbers, so things are happening that they do not want to get out to the public (like, what stores thieves could break into, death notices, etc.). If you have a boat, its the place to be.
MAJOR flodding in NYC tonight, this thing is living up to expectations. The damage is going to be in the many many many billions.
MAJOR flodding in NYC tonight, this thing is living up to expectations. The damage is going to be in the many many many billions.
For the guy that posted asking why we did not bomb this thing out in the Atlantic? We do not have anything nearly large enough that would have any effect, and adding more energy to a huge energy system like this is not a good idea.
Also for the post about Wisconsin getting hit by this thing? This is the NASA shot of Sandy making landfall. That's Lake Michigan on the outer edge of this system, and Wisconsin just to the west. They are expecting waves to be more than 10 ft on Lake Michigan. This thing is HUGE. It may only be a Catagory 1, but it is wide and it is bearing down on the eastern seaboard cities with huge populations. It will be some days before we see the real damage. Flooding is going to be massive.
![[Hearth.com] Hurricane Sandy](https://www.hearth.com/talk/attachments/hurricane-sandy-webp.79217/ "[Hearth.com] Hurricane Sandy")
Also for the post about Wisconsin getting hit by this thing? This is the NASA shot of Sandy making landfall. That's Lake Michigan on the outer edge of this system, and Wisconsin just to the west. They are expecting waves to be more than 10 ft on Lake Michigan. This thing is HUGE. It may only be a Catagory 1, but it is wide and it is bearing down on the eastern seaboard cities with huge populations. It will be some days before we see the real damage. Flooding is going to be massive.
+1
I understand how panic could set in with a city that populated, power out, transportations system down, flooding everywhere , it dark with no street or building lights & it's not over yet
The aftermath of this storm is going to be huge. Maybe now we can include climate change in a national discussion? Our low lying coastal areas are not prepared for this onslaught.
Thinking about my brother who is a utilities work leader on the navy base in Newport RI so I know he is out in this mess while most people are cozy in their homes. Lots of flooding and no power.
We are 400miles from the coast and we're still have strong winds, snow at the highest elevation,and plenty of power outages. I can't imagine being right in the path.
We are 400miles from the coast and we're still have strong winds, snow at the highest elevation,and plenty of power outages. I can't imagine being right in the path.
Yeah, this is no picnic. She's a huge, slow moving storm. Hope your brother is safe and being careful.
Staten Island Fire Dept. just put out an SOS for help, but advised that the water surrounding them is full of oil and fuel....houses there have water up to the rafters....(Fox and Weather channel are WAY behind this real time stuff happening there). Calls keep going out on the police channel like "twenty people are trapped in a stairway ", with quick responses from tired cops saying "Uh, that area is completely underwater...."
Methiks this will be the largest disaster to hit NYC. I imagne that Philly is not doing well either.
Methiks this will be the largest disaster to hit NYC. I imagne that Philly is not doing well either.
From some NYC feeds, all within the past hour:
Nat'l Weather Service: More than 13 feet or water at the Battery. Previously all-time record was 11.2 feet in 1821
Mayor Bloomberg: NYU Hospital's back-up generator failed; patients had to be transfered.
Residents in Queens: Rockaway Beach situation is bad. 3 feet of water, no way out now for people there.
New York 1 news: guess is about 2 million w/o power - most of lower manhattan now flooded.
Street person tweeting: power grid went off below 39th street - con ed explosion reported -
Street person tweeting: FDR at 86th Street under 3ft of water.
Local news feed: Many Staten Islanders residents are now stranded on rooftops.
Mayor Bloomberg: Do not drive. Taxi & livery drivers must get off the road immediately. "Stay wherever you are."
WBAI news: World Trade Center construction site being taken over by water.
REPORT: Heavy volumes of water on West St + Washington St. Cars floating down West St.
Nat'l Weather Service: More than 13 feet or water at the Battery. Previously all-time record was 11.2 feet in 1821
Mayor Bloomberg: NYU Hospital's back-up generator failed; patients had to be transfered.
Residents in Queens: Rockaway Beach situation is bad. 3 feet of water, no way out now for people there.
New York 1 news: guess is about 2 million w/o power - most of lower manhattan now flooded.
Street person tweeting: power grid went off below 39th street - con ed explosion reported -
Street person tweeting: FDR at 86th Street under 3ft of water.
Local news feed: Many Staten Islanders residents are now stranded on rooftops.
Mayor Bloomberg: Do not drive. Taxi & livery drivers must get off the road immediately. "Stay wherever you are."
WBAI news: World Trade Center construction site being taken over by water.
REPORT: Heavy volumes of water on West St + Washington St. Cars floating down West St.
Up here on the south shore of the Big Rideau we are experiencing the northeaster, I guess. The only time I have seen wind like this is in a huirricane-I've been in quite a few from Nantucket to Sarasota to Long Island. The winds have become so intense it is hard to stand, and the house now is experiencing heavy thumping, whatever the heck that means. It's getting a bit scary. The lake is over 400 feet deep on the North shore, and it is a long lake. 42 feet deep off the South shore, shelving to a long sandy beach with about 30 feet of sandy bottom only about a foot or two deep. The waves must be huge at this point. We are at the south end, but on top of a cliff. No way I can get down to the water to look at the lake, but we had good whitecaps before dark, long before this started. I can't believe we still hav e power. I hear the gutters have flown off our family home just outside NYC, and the fence in the backyard has blown over into a neighbors...and a tree of the neighbor's also fell on their home. This is a wild series of converging storms. The Hurricane is suppoosed to get here in a few days, but these winds are to keep up, hopefully not as strong as now. I'm hoping not too much is down in the woods. Maybe that is the thumping I'm hearing....
The Tale of Two Cities, and the flip side to the storm in NYC:
Update: Major North shore/east river flooding will slowly start to ease. Water levels have begun to fall.
Reporter at the evacuation of NYU Medical: Dozens of doctors accompanying patients one by one. 5 patients gone. 250 to go. First was baby.
Person on the street: It's actually been pretty dry in Hell's Kitchen. Power stayed on, people in bars.
NY1 report: Con Ed On Fixing Massive Manhattan Outage From 14th Street Explosion.
Manhattan apartment dweller: Chilled vodka & making ice as thanks for having power w/winds still too loud to sleep.
Rising floodwaters have forced the Port Authority to close LaGuardia, Newark and Teterboro Airports.
Resident in the Upper West side: 79th street seems to be lucky. I still have power and just see leaves all over the streets. No Flooding
As of late Monday night, there were reports of numerous residents trapped in their homes due to the high waters that submerged
portions of Staten Island and the Rockaways. With many roads impassable, the Fire Department was forced to reach those trapped by boat.
A Manhattan resident reports: A HAWK landed outside the window, Central Park North, to take refuge from the storm.
An MTA spokesperson said that water has entered tunnels on the 1 line between Chambers Street to South Ferry in Lower Manhattan,
subway tunnels under the East River, and the subway yard at 148th Street in Harlem.
Queens resident reports: I don't see much damage from where I am- Jamaica estates. Mostly small branches and leaves. No flooding.
Brooklyn resident reports: Explosion in South Brooklyn by Verrazano. Lasted over one minute. What was it?!!
NYC homeowner reports: Flooding in Canarsie. Receding now but basement still flooded.
FDNY is reporting 7-8 houses on fire around Newport Ave and Beach 130 St in the Rockaways.
A NY City resident asks: So how long is the power gonna be out for?
Update: Major North shore/east river flooding will slowly start to ease. Water levels have begun to fall.
Reporter at the evacuation of NYU Medical: Dozens of doctors accompanying patients one by one. 5 patients gone. 250 to go. First was baby.
Person on the street: It's actually been pretty dry in Hell's Kitchen. Power stayed on, people in bars.
NY1 report: Con Ed On Fixing Massive Manhattan Outage From 14th Street Explosion.
Manhattan apartment dweller: Chilled vodka & making ice as thanks for having power w/winds still too loud to sleep.
Rising floodwaters have forced the Port Authority to close LaGuardia, Newark and Teterboro Airports.
Resident in the Upper West side: 79th street seems to be lucky. I still have power and just see leaves all over the streets. No Flooding
As of late Monday night, there were reports of numerous residents trapped in their homes due to the high waters that submerged
portions of Staten Island and the Rockaways. With many roads impassable, the Fire Department was forced to reach those trapped by boat.
A Manhattan resident reports: A HAWK landed outside the window, Central Park North, to take refuge from the storm.
An MTA spokesperson said that water has entered tunnels on the 1 line between Chambers Street to South Ferry in Lower Manhattan,
subway tunnels under the East River, and the subway yard at 148th Street in Harlem.
Queens resident reports: I don't see much damage from where I am- Jamaica estates. Mostly small branches and leaves. No flooding.
Brooklyn resident reports: Explosion in South Brooklyn by Verrazano. Lasted over one minute. What was it?!!
NYC homeowner reports: Flooding in Canarsie. Receding now but basement still flooded.
FDNY is reporting 7-8 houses on fire around Newport Ave and Beach 130 St in the Rockaways.
A NY City resident asks: So how long is the power gonna be out for?
HDRock
Minister of Fire
It truly is bad downtown NYC. so far 6 reported fatalities in the NY Metro area and there were raging fires in some areas of Queens and firefighters were not able to get there. Several homes were burned. It will be months before things go back to normal in that area.
moburns
New Member
I left my mobile home to stay with my parents, they are in central MD as well. We have power. No damage that I can see. I am concerned with how my home is and where is all the water going to go. It has been raining, very heavy at times, with very few breaks since Sunday. We have had the gas insert going here just to keep the chill off.
I do feel bad for people in NYC right now. That's a hard place to be when things run well.
The explosions are most likely flood transformers, or equipment flooding/arcing and then methane that gets pushed up like a bubble to the highest point, then BOOM! All underground utilities, hard enough to find/fix on a good day, let alone under 10' of water. Shorted phases 30 feet below ground, melted conduit, manholes that haven't been lifted in so long someone paved over them 5 years ago, all this while you've got a city falling to panic around you with no TV to keep them quiet.
I hope for the best for them but that's hard work. Hopefully New Yorkers can keep their heads and don't start shooting aat the rescue workers like they (supposedly) did in New Orleans.
The explosions are most likely flood transformers, or equipment flooding/arcing and then methane that gets pushed up like a bubble to the highest point, then BOOM! All underground utilities, hard enough to find/fix on a good day, let alone under 10' of water. Shorted phases 30 feet below ground, melted conduit, manholes that haven't been lifted in so long someone paved over them 5 years ago, all this while you've got a city falling to panic around you with no TV to keep them quiet.
I hope for the best for them but that's hard work. Hopefully New Yorkers can keep their heads and don't start shooting aat the rescue workers like they (supposedly) did in New Orleans.
Lost power at about 1 am. Started genny at 6. Wires are down about 1/4 mile from the house. Last time it was this close, we were down for 5 days due to policy of making repairs that get the most customers back in the least time. This damage only affects the immediate neighborhood. House is OK. Have genny, food, wine, and booze.
- Status
Similar threads
