harman p68 information possible newbie

[Big papa]

Lots of good stuff here. Got my Harman almost six years ago even though I have ten acres of wood to draw on. Not sorry. Can vouch for the problems my friends have had with cheaper units. My Harman sold a few replacements for sure. Go with the 68. As someone said the throttling capacity is great and your winters are cold! As for the pad just follow the mfgr recommendations. Easier to get insurance if you plan to tell Flo or the Lizzard you got a pellet stove. No matter what you're gonna love it. I kept my oil for backup and bedroom heat on cold nights (It's zoned.) but the next purchase will be a Harman pellet boiler in tandem with the oil. I'm sold on the relianility and capabilities of the brand and the economy of pellets. Now all you need to do is find a reliable supply of good pellets and enjoy!

I'm just wondering what cheaper units you might be talking about?lol

 

[bogieb]

I'm sure most people burning pellets still have their oil fired system. Have been burning chord wood for several years and using less than 1 tank of oil for the year for the not cold enough for a wood fire season and hot water. Just finished cutting up and splitting next years firewood. But its a lot of work, 63 and not getting younger. I don't believe my area has of season deals on pellets unless I was willing to travel a couple hours to pick them up. which wouldn't produce a savings hauling them that distance in a pick up. Anyone around using co-op to buy there own pellets in bulk?

That is true, but after spending $$ on pellets that they have on hand now (or stored at the dealer), are they going to suddenly go and start using oil or use their pellet supply, then switch on the oil? I don't know the answer to that and it probably depends on where you live (oil here is still ~$3 gal). Plus, many people use propane (like me) and that is less efficient and the same price as oil (and with the looks of it, the price will only go up).

As for the co-op, wish I could find one in my area - the only co-op I can find is for conventional fuels (and they aren't taking new members)

 

[LuvMyPellets]

Just finished what your post was about. Simple 36"x52" stove board. I cut the long end with 2-45Deg angles and then cut the corner off 5" so it missed the pipe in the floor from the baseboard. Gives a nice long edge down the center to get the stove in the corner and have the required clearance on the front and sides as well as the clearance from the 2 side walls. Jig saw with a fine metal blade works best.

 

[calvin shain]

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Just finished what your post was about. Simple 36"x52" stove board. I cut the long end with 2-45Deg angles and then cut the corner off 5" so it missed the pipe in the floor from the baseboard. Gives a nice long edge down the center to get the stove in the corner and have the required clearance on the front and sides as well as the clearance from the 2 side walls. Jig saw with a fine metal blade works best.
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Nice looking install. you solved the problem well. my baseboard is on the opposing wall and the pipe comes up about a foot and a half out. from the corner. I think someone shorten the length of baseboard that much to put in a corner hutch as there is and old unused hole in the corner as if the register went the far before. The stove board install looks nice.

 

[calvin shain]

Am wondering how long pellets can be stored where its dry. Will they last a couple of burning seasons if you find some cheaply priced and want to hoard them? Also assuming you don't move the bags a lot.

 

[TonyVideo]

As long as they are in a dry place they will last a very long time as the bags are sealed as well. In ideal conditions I would think 5 years. Probably easily 2 years. Use them why push the limit? Space would be my concern to just use them as a hedge against pricing as sooner or later you will need them. On the flip side say you bought them without having a stove and wanted to make a profit then you become a speculator and gamble on a return. Probably a good move if you bought them under $200 but you will be hated as you would be driving up the price for the rest of us.

 

[F4jock]

Am wondering how long pellets can be stored where its dry. Will they last a couple of burning seasons if you find some cheaply priced and want to hoard them? Also assuming you don't move the bags a lot.

Easy two years if stored on a dry place.

 

[calvin shain]

As long as they are in a dry place they will last a very long time as the bags are sealed as well. In ideal conditions I would think 5 years. Probably easily 2 years. Use them why push the limit? Space would be my concern to just use them as a hedge against pricing as sooner or later you will need them. On the flip side say you bought them without having a stove and wanted to make a profit then you become a speculator and gamble on a return. Probably a good move if you bought them under $200 but you will be hated as you would be driving up the price for the rest of us.

wouldn't buy them for speculation to resell. just to avoid price increases. the following year.

 

[TonyVideo]

If you have the space go for it.

 

[EliteOne]

There pretty good, looking at reviews.

 

[Funnydirt14]

Harman doesn't actually give an R value but rather a K value of not less than 3/8" rated at .84k which equals out to and R value of .45

r value of common building materials.

http://www.archtoolbox.com/materials-systems/thermal-moisture-protection/rvalues.html

Pulled it from an old p61 manual but the p series stoves all require the same hearth R and K values.

http://hearthnhome.com/downloads/installManuals/P43_61A_68_I.pdf
Funny, The install manual I downloaded from 2014 says P-series stoves do not require R value floor protection. Page 10.