FP30 pacific energy, brand new have a couple questions

PChuck

Member
Jan 23, 2016
7
Canada
Hi Everyone,
I have the FP30 arched with countryman sourrond. Its brand new and I have been burning for about 2 weeks all day long I have a couple questions.
My fan gets really noisy once the unit starts to cool down. Makes a loud vibrating sound. Anyone else experienced this?
I have a mastercraft infrared Heat gun and have been monitoring the temp. Where is the proper place to measure the temp? I have been measuring it just about the glass on the door. Approx 1/4” above the glass and have gotten temps in the 800’s. I’m quite concerned! (Have had damper closed)
What does face temp mean?
Seems like I have huge amount of draft my chimney is approx 30’ in height. I put a full load of dry ash and cherry on a small amount of coals. Put the the damper all the way closed right from beginning. In about an hour I had ALOT of flames. Temp at top of glass was 800. Temp door frame 1/2 above the glass was 750?
Thought having damper closed all the way from beginning would have prevented this...
Any input would be appreciated thanks
 

gusguy

Member
Jul 15, 2017
40
Hayward, WI
Is your fan on a rheostat or or a simple switch. My fan is controlled by a rheostat and at a certain speed I get a bit of vibration, just adjust the speed till it goes away. Minor adjustment is all it needs. As for temp, measuring the door is pointless. You need to get a temp on the stove body. I have a magnetic therometer on the stove body above the handle and it fairly similar to my cheap ir gun. There's not a whole lot of info on these stoves compared to others but there's a group of guys here that have a pretty good handle on them.
 

gusguy

Member
Jul 15, 2017
40
Hayward, WI
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If you look above the handle you'll see the therometer. This seems like the best spot for an accurate reading.
 

Mike M.

Feeling the Heat
Mar 18, 2012
295
Green Bay, WI
Most of us on here with the FP30 have blocked 1/2 to 3/4 of our OAKs. I did this and monitored temps when my unit was new. Now I just try to avoid glowing red stove parts and call it good. 800 for a short time period is not that concerning. Try letting it burn down further before the reload. I haven't checked the actual temp of mine in 2 years. Try to keep the fire in your control, larger splits, pack tighter, unslpit rounds ect.

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PChuck

Member
Jan 23, 2016
7
Canada
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If you look above the handle you'll see the therometer. This seems like the best spot for an accurate reading.
I have a simple on of switch, ill get a rheostat to control speed. Ill get a therometer on the stove. When I use the IR temp sensor on stove body I havent seen the temp over 650. So I think thats a good sign. Im going to try larger peices of wood when I load it fully. See if that helps
 
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PChuck

Member
Jan 23, 2016
7
Canada
Think I got it outside air intake? I didn’t install that on my unit. I do have a vacu stack for my cap. I live in an extremely windy spot. (Shore of Lake Huron. ) I do believe this ads to my draft
 

Mike M.

Feeling the Heat
Mar 18, 2012
295
Green Bay, WI
Yes outside air intake = OAK. Do you have access to the location this would normally be connected to via pipe on the unit?

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Mike M.

Feeling the Heat
Mar 18, 2012
295
Green Bay, WI
Here is a pretty typical load for me. This is one oak, one elm and one box elder split in the FP30. House is 74 and this should heat until morning or so. Temps outside down to around 10 degrees tonight.

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Mike M.

Feeling the Heat
Mar 18, 2012
295
Green Bay, WI
Here is the fire a few minutes later, air almost all the way off. Flames are lazy, secondary burn is strong. Fan is at about 1/2 speed. You can see someone decided to crash on the rug I was attempting to dry...
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Tater1985

New Member
Jan 26, 2018
46
IN
Most of us on here with the FP30 have blocked 1/2 to 3/4 of our OAKs. I did this and monitored temps when my unit was new. Now I just try to avoid glowing red stove parts and call it good. 800 for a short time period is not that concerning. Try letting it burn down further before the reload. I haven't checked the actual temp of mine in 2 years. Try to keep the fire in your control, larger splits, pack tighter, unslpit rounds ect.

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Hey Mike, have you had glowing red stove parts before? If so which ones should someone be on tje lookout for?

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Mike M.

Feeling the Heat
Mar 18, 2012
295
Green Bay, WI
My experience is the air wash plate for the door window is the first to glow red on non cat stoves. Happened to me a handful of times on different units but for sure try to avoid this situation.

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PChuck

Member
Jan 23, 2016
7
Canada
Here is a pretty typical load for me. This is one oak, one elm and one box elder split in the FP30. House is 74 and this should heat until morning or so. Temps outside down to around 10 degrees tonight. View attachment 237777

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Hey Mike
Those are some thick pieces of wood. Mine are much finer. I can fit probably 8 pieces of wood in my box (north to south)
I think my bracket or piece of angle iron that the baffle sits on. That piece closest to the window, Often has a slight glow. I re loaded the stove that had some hot coals and only put 4 pieces of wood in. Could have put 3 or 4 more pieces of wood in. That bracket had a slight red glow. Had my damper fully closed. I’m pretty convinced I’m over cooking this thing!
Spoke to dealer and going to put in 4 inch reducer at bottom of chimney try to slow things down. Might hold off having anymore fires until dealer looks at it. Quite concerned hopefully haven’t damaged it to much.
Also another factor High winds.
 

PChuck

Member
Jan 23, 2016
7
Canada
Today the dealer came over switched the fan out for a new one. And still have a very loud vibrating sound. Sound starts when the fireplace is cooling down. Tried putting rubber washers under fan bracket, that hasn’t helped. Any tips?
Going to install rheostat switch this week. Hoping if I slow the fan down this wont happen....
Also due to high draft blocked the secondary air intake. And put a reducer in the chimney to slow things down. Seemed to help a little bit.
 

Tater1985

New Member
Jan 26, 2018
46
IN
Today the dealer came over switched the fan out for a new one. And still have a very loud vibrating sound. Sound starts when the fireplace is cooling down. Tried putting rubber washers under fan bracket, that hasn’t helped. Any tips?
Going to install rheostat switch this week. Hoping if I slow the fan down this wont happen....
Also due to high draft blocked the secondary air intake. And put a reducer in the chimney to slow things down. Seemed to help a little bit.
The rheostat should help, thats how i get rid of my vibraring squeal of a noise. Mine comes from the craftsman surround vibrating.

When you say blocked off secondary air do you mean your OAK? Also im curious where this reducer was installed at? I feel like ours may benifit from some type of reducer as well, so i am curious.

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saydinli

Burning Hunk
Nov 6, 2016
233
Near Fergus Ontario
Today the dealer came over switched the fan out for a new one. And still have a very loud vibrating sound. Sound starts when the fireplace is cooling down. Tried putting rubber washers under fan bracket, that hasn’t helped. Any tips?
Going to install rheostat switch this week. Hoping if I slow the fan down this wont happen....
Also due to high draft blocked the secondary air intake. And put a reducer in the chimney to slow things down. Seemed to help a little bit.

Did the dealer install the reducer? How much did they reduce it by?
I have 30' of chimney in a high wind area and they (PE & dealer) reduced my chimney from 6" to 3.5" and installed a modified adjustable heat shield at the chimney flue that blocks part of the flue opening to slow down the draft. Works well now.
 

PChuck

Member
Jan 23, 2016
7
Canada
Installed reducer at the beginning of chimney just above baffle went 6 to only 5(they forgot to bring a smaller one) Going to get them to put in 4inch or 3.5. Not the OAK but secondary air intake. You have open the bottom plate and follow the metal piece on the back of your fireplace it runs down and there’s an opening on bottom.
I believe it’s the countryman surround that is making the rattleing sounds. Put pressure on the corner and the sound stopped. Going to put a rubber wedge or something in there to see if that will help.
 

Mike M.

Feeling the Heat
Mar 18, 2012
295
Green Bay, WI
I get a very slight rattling at certain fan speeds and fire temperature. Nothing that doesn't go away quickly with an adjustment. Have noticed that plate at the top of the unit with its sliding ability. Makes perfect sense that it could be used to reduce the chimney draw/draft. I also thought it was a flame shield.

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Inspector 53

New Member
Oct 30, 2017
4
Saginaw, mi
Today the dealer came over switched the fan out for a new one. And still have a very loud vibrating sound. Sound starts when the fireplace is cooling down. Tried putting rubber washers under fan bracket, that hasn’t helped. Any tips?
Going to install rheostat switch this week. Hoping if I slow the fan down this wont happen....
Also due to high draft blocked the secondary air intake. And put a reducer in the chimney to slow things down. Seemed to help a little bit.
I had the same problem!! Dealer had to pry back the duct work that the fans blow into. Worked like a charm. FYI the ducts are in a very hard spot to get your hand into. Hope this helps!!