We're getting a Princess for the house we're building. We were planning on using LVP flooring but I'm concerned that the floor around the stove will get too hot and buckle. I measured in front of our Flame Energy ZC fireplace and the carpet just past the 24" hearth is in the 110 degree range. Of course it's a totally different stove and one that radiates all its heat to the front. There's nothing in the BK install manual about flooring around the stove. Does the floor get warm when the stove's running?
Floor temps around princess
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I am not sure.
Granted, I don't have a princess but a chinook, but there is heat below the door, *precisely because* the cat is at the top - in fact, you can only see the glow of the cat if you put your head lower so you can look up into the firebox towards the cat. As a result there is radiative load on the floor in front of the stove. (I can see the glow of the cat on the floor if I have a last check in the basement at night with no lights on.)
Now, I never measured how far this heat load goes.
I do have a standard (mfg) hearthpad that I took over from the individual who sold me the (new still palleted...) stove.
And I do have vinyl plank on the floor. By no means luxury; it's a basement. (Don't know what classifies as VP and LVP...) Unfortunately no insulation below the vinyl, so the concrete will cool it down a bit.
But after burning for days, it's nice and warm. Not hot. The hearth pad can be hotter.
I don't know how that would change if there was insulation below the vinyl plank.
Granted, I don't have a princess but a chinook, but there is heat below the door, *precisely because* the cat is at the top - in fact, you can only see the glow of the cat if you put your head lower so you can look up into the firebox towards the cat. As a result there is radiative load on the floor in front of the stove. (I can see the glow of the cat on the floor if I have a last check in the basement at night with no lights on.)
Now, I never measured how far this heat load goes.
I do have a standard (mfg) hearthpad that I took over from the individual who sold me the (new still palleted...) stove.
And I do have vinyl plank on the floor. By no means luxury; it's a basement. (Don't know what classifies as VP and LVP...) Unfortunately no insulation below the vinyl, so the concrete will cool it down a bit.
But after burning for days, it's nice and warm. Not hot. The hearth pad can be hotter.
I don't know how that would change if there was insulation below the vinyl plank.
Some LVP is thick and would likely resist warping better than thin stuff, but other than that the quality of the flooring probably does not matter as much as the material.
I had exactly the same thought that the cat is high up in the stove so the heat should go up but it would radiate down through the glass.
I had exactly the same thought that the cat is high up in the stove so the heat should go up but it would radiate down through the glass.
So evidently things differ per install, because for me the floor gets far warmer than the (darker) floor in direct sun.
Maybe in the summer the sun would warm things up more than under the stove but the angle of the winter sun won't. Also depends on on the windows (uv protection) and stove. Too many variables to make a 1 size fits all conclusion.
We have an older BK stove that sits on a pedestal, firebox is about 14” above the floor. The stove is similar to the King model on BK website. The floor is warm to the touch in front of the stove, less on the sides. The pedestal is hot. The Princess sits on legs not a pedestal so my guess is heat shouldn’t be an issue outside the hearth pad.
BKVP
Minister of Fire
Thanks, I missed that.
Does that mean non adhesive based is ok? We're looking at LVP not peel and stick.
How close is safe? Like can I extend the hearth a couple feet and use LVP for the rest of the floor?
Does that mean non adhesive based is ok? We're looking at LVP not peel and stick.
How close is safe? Like can I extend the hearth a couple feet and use LVP for the rest of the floor?
BKVP
Minister of Fire
I'd refer you to manufacturer of flooring for threshold temperatures. Most Mfg's are now suggesting 3'. I think that's a bit much, but check with flooring mfg.
Also, are you using Ultra pedestal? Being taller than classic base would help.
BKVP
Also, are you using Ultra pedestal? Being taller than classic base would help.
BKVP
Funny thing about radiative heat: the drywall behind the stove (a few inches more than the recommended clearance distance) gets warm to the touch, as expected. The opposite wall, which is just separated from that wall by the airspace between the framing and, of course, the two drywall panels, feels cold. But our thermostat for the other HVAC, which sits opposite of that second drywall with 4' of hallway airspace between it, "sees" the radiation and registers elevated temperatures whenever the stove is on. Luckily we don't use that reading (but remote sensors instead), otherwise it would throw the heating of that part of the house seriously out of whack.
I can do that but I'd need to know the floor temps that the stove will generate. Obviously that will vary depending on the load in the stove, how it's set and the floor material.
Yes it will be on the pedestal. Thanks for the info.
BKVP
Minister of Fire
I expect the color of the floor might matter too? Dark colors will absorb more radiation like a black car in the sun?
I can confirm that the raised concrete hearth beneath my pedestal mounted ultra princess is indeed warm. The dogs love it.
I can confirm that the raised concrete hearth beneath my pedestal mounted ultra princess is indeed warm. The dogs love it.
I didn't know there were two. I'm pretty sure its the Ultra but I'll need to call the dealer. I'd want the Ultra anyhow even without this potential issue.
