First time stove buyer. Advise please!

[Chris 3.0]

Before you buy this...take a look at other stoves too. Sometimes a more expensive stove can be had 2nd hand for a big discount and give you more options in your budget. Just a thought. It's a big purchase you will live with day in and day out.

Yea I know. I've watched so many videos and shopped so many sites and reviews I think my brain is melting. I just stumbled upon the Jotul F 500 Oslo video the other night and fell in love with that thing. If I didn't have a mortgage payment and a wedding in April to pay for I would have bought one. Lol.

 

[Chris 3.0]

And make sure you price out the pipe. Probably way more than $499

Yea I haven't priced piping yet. I've read it can cost as much or more than the damn stove.

 

[Blazin]

You're right there! My 13nc was $700, and the pipe and install was $1200. My pipe is 6' of double wall telescoping to the ceiling, then a roof to ceiling adapter, and 10' of stainless triple wall with ceramic.

 

[firefighterjake]

Yea I know. I've watched so many videos and shopped so many sites and reviews I think my brain is melting. I just stumbled upon the Jotul F 500 Oslo video the other night and fell in love with that thing. If I didn't have a mortgage payment and a wedding in April to pay for I would have bought one. Lol.

The Oslo is one sexy beast, no?

Go for it . . . just invite fewer wedding guests . . . I am sure your fiance/future wife will understand.

 

[schlot]

I have a US Stove 2007b, so it similar to what you are looking at.

I bought it a Farm store for around $300 at the end of year clearance. I approached it as a starter stove. I spent more with the the pipe (don't cheap out) and the tile surround (don't go cheap here either) knowing some day I would get a better stove if I liked burning wood.

The stove is a decent quality product, Mine does not have good air control (non-epa) so you might want to look how the 2000 lets you control the air for long burns.

Have fun!

 

[begreen]

The Oslo is one sexy beast, no?

Go for it . . . just invite fewer wedding guests . . . I am sure your fiance/future wife will understand.

Heck, put an Oslo on the wedding gift registry.

 

[Machria]

Getting married? Oh KRYKEEEE! Forget the cost of the wedding, wait to you see what the "after wedding" costs you if you know what I mean! You probably don't know what I mean, but all the other married folks out there know EXACTLY what I mean.

Congrats, good luck!

 

[Chris 3.0]

The Oslo is one sexy beast, no?

Go for it . . . just invite fewer wedding guests . . . I am sure your fiance/future wife will understand.

Haha. Unfortunately I made the mistake of showing her a few and comparing prices so she knows what's expensive and what's not. I got so excited when I saw it I had to tell someone about it. Haha. I think I have a bit of a man crush on it.

 

[Chris 3.0]

I have a US Stove 2007b, so it similar to what you are looking at.

I bought it a Farm store for around $300 at the end of year clearance. I approached it as a starter stove. I spent more with the the pipe (don't cheap out) and the tile surround (don't go cheap here either) knowing some day I would get a better stove if I liked burning wood.

The stove is a decent quality product, Mine does not have good air control (non-epa) so you might want to look how the 2000 lets you control the air for long burns.

Have fun!

From what I played with it just has the push in/pull out lever to open and close the air.

 

[Chris 3.0]

Heck, put an Oslo on the wedding gift registry.

Ha, if I had a rich uncle or ANY grand parents at all I would!

 

[Chris 3.0]

I saw the 2500 at the local Rural King. It was on sale for $444 and I almost recommended it as a budget stove to my BIL, but it may have been too big for his space. 3/16" steel on the sides, can't remember what the top was, so it's not a heavy-duty stove. But for $499... Was it on sale?

1. How much wood do I put in for a nice long burn? (I know that's damper dependent and seasoning also)
Not sure if you can get an overnight burn at high output with that stove, although I haven't seen the size of the firebox. If your place is well-insulated and not drafty, and the room temp will fall slowly when the fire goes out, building and starting a fire in the morning isn't that big a deal...you'll learn how to do it quick. Do you have a backup heat source? There might be some reviews on that stove in the review section of the site.
4. I am going to put the stove on the main floor and the bedrooms are on the 2nd floor, will this heat the upstairs? House was built in 1962 and its about 600 s.f. 23x23 and 20ft from stove to 2nd floor ceiling.
5. It says 11,817-31,713 btu/hr but the sticker says 42000-89000 btu's so what's the difference?
So it's 600 sq.ft downstairs and another 600 up? The first BTU numbers are the EPA numbers and the second are the manufacturer's ratings. If your place is tight, I'm guessing that stove might handle it but others are probably more qualified to accurately assess that stove for your application.

Yea the $499 was their clearance price. I've seen other people on here that got their for the same end of the year clearance. Haven't seen then cheaper than that anywhere. And the was for the 2000. Just checked with another TSC in the next county and the have the Magnolia 2015. It's got the fancy legs and bigger box. I'm gonna go check it out too. $749

 

[Chris 3.0]

You're right there! My 13nc was $700, and the pipe and install was $1200. My pipe is 6' of double wall telescoping to the ceiling, then a roof to ceiling adapter, and 10' of stainless triple wall with ceramic.

Ouch! Yea I'm going thru the wall and out. Otherwise I'd have to go thru 1st and 2nd floor ceilings and out thru the roof. That's a lot of chopping in the house.

 

[DexterDay]

Ouch! Yea I'm going thru the wall and out. Otherwise I'd have to go thru 1st and 2nd floor ceilings and out thru the roof. That's a lot of chopping in the house.

Class A chimney is not cheap. Your gonna need 2 stories worth of Class A (20 some feet?) A through the wall kit (thimble) brackets for the side of the house, and then single wall or double wall inside (recommend double wall). Possibly an adapter (if using double wall), and a couple other misc items (extended height brackets, inline damper if you have excessive draft).

My Uncle has the 2000 and Loves it. My only complaint about it, would be the air control. Even when fully closed, it lets in way to much air and gets the stove Hot (runaway) and his chimney height is less than ideal. Its about 6' of single wall and 6' of Class A (12' total)..

Using the blower is a must. He heats his entire home (1,200-1,400 sq?) with his.. Solid stove but likes to run HOT (so does my 30 )

 

[Chris 3.0]

Class A chimney is not cheap. Your gonna need 2 stories worth of Class A (20 some feet?) A through the wall kit (thimble) brackets for the side of the house, and then single wall or double wall inside (recommend double wall). Possibly an adapter (if using double wall), and a couple other misc items (extended height brackets, inline damper if you have excessive draft).

My Uncle has the 200 and Loves it. My only complaint about it, would be the air control. Even when fully closed, it lets in way to much air and gets the stove Hot (runaway) and his chimney height is less than ideal. Its about 6' of single wall and 6' of Class A (12' total)..

Using the blower is a must. He heats his entire home (1,200-1,400 sq?) with his.. Solid stove but likes to run HOT (so does my 30 )

Now that I'm shopping for pipe and watching "how to" videos, I'm wondering if you can vent the stove thru a second floor (which would actually be our bedroom in the corner) and then thru the roof? This way you get more heat throughout the house and save on the expensive ass stainless piping, only having to buy what's going thru the roof. Any thoughts

 

[Chris 3.0]

Now that I'm shopping for pipe and watching "how to" videos, I'm wondering if you can vent the stove thru a
second floor (which would actually be our bedroom in the corner) and then thru the roof? This way you get more heat throughout the house and save on the expensive ass stainless piping, only having to buy what's going thru the roof. So that would be stove on main floor, black pipe thru ceiling (or stainless thru the floor, whatever is code) into 2nd floor and then up into the roof and out to stainless. Any thoughts?

 

[tigeroak]

Pipe will cost you right at 95.00 every 3 foot. You can go straight up but you will need special items to go through the second floor. Also going straight up you need to be 24 inches away from the wall. I will get my book out and let you know what you got to get but cost will not know. Out total cost on pipe was right at or a little over 600.00 from stove to cap. One floor then a 10/12 pitch roof.

 

[Chris 3.0]

Pipe will cost you right at 95.00 every 3 foot. You can go straight up but you will need special items to go through the second floor. Also going straight up you need to be 24 inches away from the wall. I will get my book out and let you know what you got to get but cost will not know. Out total cost on pipe was right at or a little over 600.00 from stove to cap. One floor then a 10/12 pitch roof.

Awesome thanks for doing that. So can you go thru the ceiling and into the 2nd floor with the black pipe or do you need stainless between floors and then back to black in the actual room.

 

[tigeroak]

Duravent is what I used and it shows once you go through the first ceiling with your black pipe from there on you need to be the stainless. It depends on how you set the stove on how far the black pipe can be from the wall. One way is 32 inches and another is 22. This depends on if in a corner and how it sets, or up to a flat wall. Also your floor protector needs to be at least 50x 43. That is what my insurance man told me and we did everything as was in book and insurance only went up 2.35 a month.

 

[Chris 3.0]

Duravent is what I used and it shows once you go through the first ceiling with your black pipe from there on you need to be the stainless. It depends on how you set the stove on how far the black pipe can be from the wall. One way is 32 inches and another is 22. This depends on if in a corner and how it sets, or up to a flat wall. Also your floor protector needs to be at least 50x 43. That is what my insurance man told me and we did everything as was in book and insurance only went up 2.35 a month.

Oh that sucks. I was hoping you could just use a section of stainless thru the floor joists and then back to black to heat the 2nd floor room. The stove is in the corner and will be 3+ feet out from the corner from what I can tell. Guess I need to find out the codes for my area.

 

[tigeroak]

You asked would it be ok for a starter stove , my answer, heck yes mine heats up like a champ. BUT like I said if you want long burn times of more than 8 hours this is not the stove you want. But if you want a nice stove and one that will put out heat go for it. We sat down and looked at stove after stove on the internet and in stores and for the price if it didn't work for the house I was going to put it in the shop and go to looking again. But everything has worked just fine. You will have to do a few burns before you get how you want the draft set. Read the book that comes with the stove , then read it again. Go to youtube and search for the u.s. stove 2000 and watch the tubes burning on top inside of stove burning gases. We also set my stove on my small trailer and put a small fire in it to get the paint cured a little outside, I put in about a 2x4 about 14inches long split several times . Play with it out side like the damper. I put about 6 foot of black pipe in the stove to draw smoke and it worked good. Just don't get it hot , just a small fire .Will smoke the house up if you did first fire in house.

 

[tigeroak]

I just did a search for duravent and Rural king has the stainless on sale now for 71.25, thats over 23.00 off per section.

 

[Chris 3.0]

I just did a search for duravent and Rural king has the stainless on sale now for 71.25, thats over 23.00 off per section.

Wow that is a good deal. I think its 99 for a 36" section at tractor supply right now. Thanks for the info!

 

[jeff_t]

Selkirk Supervent is also an economical pipe. Around here, Menard's carries just about everything, and Lowe's has a VERY limited selection. Whatever Menard's doesn't stock is shipped free. That's a good price for Duravent from RK.

You can only have black pipe where it is exposed, meaning from stove to ceiling or wall thimble. And wherever the class A is in a living space, like your bedroom, it needs to be enclosed.

 

[begreen]

Awesome thanks for doing that. So can you go thru the ceiling and into the 2nd floor with the black pipe or do you need stainless between floors and then back to black in the actual room.

No, the moment you penetrate the room envelope (at the ceiling) you must switch to class A, no exceptions. Connector pipe (black pipe) is for in the room only.

 

[Chris 3.0]

You asked would it be ok for a starter stove , my answer, heck yes mine heats up like a champ. BUT like I said if you want long burn times of more than 8 hours this is not the stove you want. But if you want a nice stove and one that will put out heat go for it. We sat down and looked at stove after stove on the internet and in stores and for the price if it didn't work for the house I was going to put it in the shop and go to looking again. But everything has worked just fine. You will have to do a few burns before you get how you want the draft set. Read the book that comes with the stove , then read it again. Go to youtube and search for the u.s. stove 2000 and watch the tubes burning on top inside of stove burning gases. We also set my stove on my small trailer and put a small fire in it to get the paint cured a little outside, I put in about a 2x4 about 14inches long split several times . Play with it out side like the damper. I put about 6 foot of black pipe in the stove to draw smoke and it worked good. Just don't get it hot , just a small fire .Will smoke the house up if you did first fire in house.

Good to know. I know I will have to play with it some but your trailer trail is a good idea. Heres my suggestion (and this chit always happens to me because im picky) is they need to make the US Stove 2000 with the decorative legs like the Magnolia 2015 and I would have already bought it! Haha. I like the $ point of the 2000 but I like the style of the Magnolia 2015.