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Always someone has to ruin the thread filibustering with partisan political commentary.
EPA Tightening Regs...even on Pellet Stoves
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I am loving the fears and tears over this stuff. The prices I am going to be asking for my Jotul F3 CB and Jotul F100 certified stoves used one season each and the spare 30-NC that has never been connected or fired just doubled.
Along about January 2016...
Along about January 2016...
I dont want to make this to political but i think it needs to be pointed out that if you are going to blame this on our current president can you tell me who was president in 1988 when the first set of regs was enacted
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The CAT is in your house. The inlet temp is higher then the outlet temp. All that heat goes back into your house.
Going back to NG?
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So long as you keep a lid on your buds in the petroleum arena and gas stays reasonable, I'm all happy, no matter who is in the Whitehouse because they are all crooks anyway. Money breeds corruption.
Really looking forward to Net Neutrality.... That'll kick some forum owners butts, I'm sure.
No NG available here. Or oil burner in the house. It is wood or electric period. And the heat pump died from lack of use in 1996. Since I don't burn oil and only drive an average of six miles a week, I want oil to go through the roof to increase my Exxon stock price and dividends.
Net neutrality has nothing to do with forum owners. Or this thread.
Net neutrality has nothing to do with forum owners. Or this thread.
Don't get me started on the FMCSA
I cant wait to see the retail prices of everything sold in 5 years. Trucking is going to get EXPENSIVE ! A CDL holder will be able to name his price as a driver if there are any left and the cab of a truck will look like an office and television station !
Don't get me started on the FMCSA
It already does. In my 'other life', I'm a enforcement officer for a large private carrier (over 100 units running mostly between PA and the Missippi). The 'big book' is laying right here next to the laptop and all the access programs to rhe tattletells are in the program files. I can 'look' at any of the trucks, anytime. Track back and 'cookie crumb' trails tell the story of each truck, from panic stops to apparent driver fatigue, no secrets, it's all there, it's on the truck ECM (black box) and on my laptop too.
If you bought it, own it, use it or breathe it, it, at some point, travelled by truck.... biofuel appliances included. As the price of admission increases (like Tier 4 Final Mandates) that cost an average of 20 grand extra per unit (under the guise of clean air and envitomental stewardship), the cost of movement of freight also increases, passed directly to the consumer. Big brother is watching...and raising the price of admission as well.... everyday.
The consumer never thinks (or realizes) that in great part, the rising cost of hard goods is tied to transportation, but it is. Good example is diesel fuel and the cost (more than gasoline). Transportation companies pass that cost directly on to the consumer in the form of a fuel surcharge levied directly on the very goods and services those consumers must have. Wood pellets are hauled by truck, from the mill, to the retailer. Guess what.. There are freight charges assessed for each movement and that pesky fuel surcharge is rolled into each of those freight bills.
It's a viscious circle
Myself, I hold every endorsement there is (except Haz-Mat and explosives because of the yearly background check, I don't require that). Doubles, Triples, School Bus, Straight truck, Tractor Trailer, Tanker, I have them all. It's amazing in a way.
20 years ago, a truck driver was considered a seconf class citizen. Not anymore. Today, qualified drivers are in great demand and make big money because it's getting more and more difficult to hold a CDL (every law enforcement agency and the government is itching to take it away. Our drivers average in the high 60's with full company benefits, yearly (and we are average btw). Thats good jack for a HS diploma or a GED, I know a lot of college grad's that don't make close to that....
I fully agree. In five years, the cost of 'doing business' will increase substantially as will the cost of the delivered goods. I get a charge out of the railroad commercials (CSX). Like there is a rail siding behind every retail outlet. It's like the orange juice from Florida commercial but I guess consumers are that gullible.....lol
When looking at inflation and/or the cost of goods, you need to factor in all the varibles.
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Bottom line here is.... The government is tightening the parameters on everything from soup to nuts with their Alphabet Agencies and their nooses. From wood and pellet stoves to transportation, to food quality to pharmaceuticals to hospitalization.... For the 'overall good'. Me, I don't buy into that but I'm obviously a minority.
KodiakII
Minister of Fire
What they all need are catalytic converters.
Just kidding....or am I.
Or DEF injection, or AdBlue for those of you over the pond.
Urea injection won't work on a woodstove (different chemical makeup of the particulates)., but it's a good thought. I've found that DEF works well as a liquid fertilizer, it is, after all, 32% Urea (N) and deionized water and thats it. Makes the garden grow well and my hayfields and it's cheaper (per unit) than 28%.
I could see a DEF tank (and related injection machinery) on every woodstove...right.
It's not blue. It's clear. I never got the 'blue' thing.
I could see a DEF tank (and related injection machinery) on every woodstove...right.
It's not blue. It's clear. I never got the 'blue' thing.
Since the caps on the Adblue tanks in the car are blue, I suspect the naming is just to avoid confusion on where it goes. You would think they'd actually dye it blue as well though.
Fair statement. You could make it any color I guess. In bulk it's clear.... and stinks. Smells like cat pee. Good for hay and tomato plants, actually anything that likes nitrogen.
HOLY CRAP! If I had said that (I fully agree, by the way), LG would have deleted my post
Bottom line is our stoves are better our vehicles are better our air is better you as a driver make more ect. I am by no means saying there are no problems with the system there are many in just about every part of the government but this issue is really not one of them i am sorry it will make stoves work better cleaner and more efficiently just as it did last time. Can you honestly argue that the last set or regulations on the stove industry have not been a good thing for the industry and the public as a whole? And if you feel that way can you please elaborate with specifics not just political rants.
woodmakesheat
Feeling the Heat
Amen. I worked on a catalytic hydronic stove design for my senior Mechanical Engineering project in 1986 and realize that without government regulations I might still be using that friggin' barrel stove that was super inefficient and a massive creosote and smoke producer.
As they say in law school if you have the facts on your side, hammer the facts. If you have the law on your side, hammer the law. If you have neither the facts nor the law, hammer the table.
Next winter, I'll be 'hammering' the corn.
On a lighter note, in this month's Biomass Magazine, on page 65 is an ad with my Avitar in it. www.hurstboiler.com fun contraption.
On a lighter note, in this month's Biomass Magazine, on page 65 is an ad with my Avitar in it. www.hurstboiler.com fun contraption.
Time magazine had a picture of the Edsel.
http://content.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1657867_1657781,00.html
http://content.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1657867_1657781,00.html
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