Englander jamming in vertical shaft

[Cedarjunki]

I remember reading a thread somewhere. I cant remember where or the make of the stove it discussed.... but is it possible for englanders boards to reverse the auger direction? Causing it to jam up.. im just throwing this out there as i have no clue other than remember reading about it at some point.

 

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I remember reading a thread somewhere. I cant remember where or the make of the stove it discussed.... but is it possible for englanders boards to reverse the auger direction? Causing it to jam up.. im just throwing this out there as i have no clue other than remember reading about it at some point.

well now it just shut down with an E2 error.
losing my mind at this point.

 

[Cedarjunki]

E2 is just failure to start.
I had that a few times with mine restarting from a cold state. It needs to heat up everything. I just hit on again and it was fine

 

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I'm wondering if the settings have anything to do with it. It doesn't seem to jam when I'm running hot with both heat and blower set at 5. When I run into trouble is when I drop the settings down to 3 or 2. That seems to be when the jams start coming.

 

[Dr.Faustus]

there are no settings you can alter (besides mode c or d) when the stove is on 3. on 1-2 you can alter the feed rate and combustion air but after setting 2 those dont do anything.a weak or intermittently broken motor on the top shouldnt cause a jam, just a no fire condition. a weak motor on the bottom would cause a jam on the top.

what you said about the pellets falling is interesting. I always assumed they fall straight down. I am going to see if i can find a picture of a replacement shaft body so i can have a better look at it.

 

[Dr.Faustus]

This is the best i could find. it is like $267 dollars on the site. wish i could find one with a view from the top. looks like the pellets fall in through the top, get pushed forward by the top auger then fall to the bottom auger and then pushed out. Id be suprised if it wasnt a straight run down from the top auger chute to the bottom auger chute.

 

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This is the best i could find. it is like $267 dollars on the site. wish i could find one with a view from the top. looks like the pellets fall in through the top, get pushed forward by the top auger then fall to the bottom auger and then pushed out. Id be suprised if it wasnt a straight run down from the top auger chute to the bottom auger chute.

I was stunned myself to see it fall onto a flat plate and not a straight shot down.
Funny thing it is ran it on 5/5 for 10 hours without a problem, then again for another 6 the following day. I ordered new motors and bearings after talking to the englander rep. Until they arrive I'll run on the higher settings. It's going to be the coldest week of the year coming up so hopefully it holds up for me until I can try the motors.

 

[Dr.Faustus]

The question is why wouldnt they fall straight down. what purpose is gained by the pellet plinko game going on there? maybe it serves as some sort of firestop in case the bottom auger fails?

In these stoves when the bottom auger fails, the top keeps pushing pellets. that leaves a path of pellets straight from the burnpot to the hopper. Maybe its designed to leave a gap in the pellet trail should that happen.

 

[BUBIBEAR]

The upper auger is put there to meter the amount of pellets fed to the lower one ,as called for by the heat setting . There could be some sort of obstruction in the upper auger cavity , that lets most of the pellets flow and one odd size pellet gets hung up and causes the backup .

 

[bill3rail]

I had my first pellet jam between upper and lower but did not figure out until I removed the motors, plugged them in on the bench and watched one of them intermittently turning!
Took it apart, and there was a stripped gear inside.
Create your insulated wire for testing motors and run them on the bench!
You may see something this way.

Bill

 

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I had my first pellet jam between upper and lower but did not figure out until I removed the motors, plugged them in on the bench and watched one of them intermittently turning!
Took it apart, and there was a stripped gear inside.
Create your insulated wire for testing motors and run them on the bench!
You may see something this way.

Bill

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I had my first pellet jam between upper and lower but did not figure out until I removed the motors, plugged them in on the bench and watched one of them intermittently turning!
Took it apart, and there was a stripped gear inside.
Create your insulated wire for testing motors and run them on the bench!
You may see something this way.

Bill

I have some new motors and bearings to try as well. With it being 10 years old I felt it couldn't hurt to update them. I've been running on the 5/5 setting for a few days now without a problem. Only problem is how warm it gets. I'm afraid to turn it down for fear of the jam.

When you tested the motors did you just strip and extension cord to connect the terminals and plus it in?

 

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Any recommendations on a new stove?? I replaced both motors and bearings as well as clean up all of the augers and it just keeps giving the E2 error code. Just don't know what else to do at this point but replace the stove.

 

[Lake Girl]

Haven't read through the whole thread but have you check your vacuum lines/switches? These will interrupt auger feed... The other thing I would check is the thermal sensor to make sure it is reading temp info appropriately.

The other potential would be your exhaust motor weakening, causing the vacuum switches to interrupt feed of augers.

PS ... just read the troubleshooting section ... Think I have a Bingo! thermal sensor loose (or not relaying info) will cause an E-2 code.

 

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So I just have to eat a half ton of pellets and try a new brand. The Orford brand is so bad and continues to jam my auger with brand new motors. It jams up so tight that nothing moves. Constant clearing and removing. Can anyone recommend a brand that burns well in their englander 25 pdv?

 

[Lake Girl]

Sounds like almost anything is better ... try hauling home a couple or three bags of a few different brands.

 

[jjones139]

So I just have to eat a half ton of pellets and try a new brand. The Orford brand is so bad and continues to jam my auger with brand new motors. It jams up so tight that nothing moves. Constant clearing and removing. Can anyone recommend a brand that burns well in their englander 25 pdv?

3rd season with Presto Logs and not a problem.. Chows this year are good too! Good luck and hope you get this cleared up!