Eatonpcat
Minister of Fire
Very nice...Great deal Kenis, Congrats once again. Agree with Smoke (I think). Certainly don't see any blemishes.
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Here are the 2 blemishes. The one before this one (ebay auction) had a weld blemish.
This unit had a slightly crooked handle and grinder damage on the front left corner. From a couple feet away. You would never know. The door handle doesn't bother me, because it looks like it was designed on an angle.
Here is a shot of the handle. A shot from afar of top (look at left front corner) and shot up close of left top corner.![[Hearth.com] Englander 10-CPM (bought, burn, and install)](https://www.hearth.com/talk/data/attachments/65/65213-a0f6fb49172378c7a7a8957aa3e0edb4.jpg?hash=WssEno_hQv "[Hearth.com] Englander 10-CPM (bought, burn, and install)")
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This unit had a slightly crooked handle and grinder damage on the front left corner. From a couple feet away. You would never know. The door handle doesn't bother me, because it looks like it was designed on an angle.
Here is a shot of the handle. A shot from afar of top (look at left front corner) and shot up close of left top corner.
Thanks. Hoping next Winter we can get together and have a few cold ones and compare the units. See what they have in common? And what different. Which is better at what?
Dont have to wait that long for the cold ones... I prefer the Rockies if your Buying? But during the Winter. It Great Lakes Brewing Co. Christmas Ale
![[Hearth.com] Englander 10-CPM (bought, burn, and install)](/talk/data/attachments/65/65218-ea1b3bbd1042964b0d85d90abf5c4837.jpg?hash=gNN9fIIBmx)
Beacuse I never owned a CPM. It looks like it should be that way. So I am not ordering anything. Its a brand new unit. No need to.
Eatonpcat
Minister of Fire
Wait, what???
Must be an Ohio thing?
We need a barfing smiley..
Wow Smoke....Did a reverse dictionary search on your post
With that definition, The only word that was a 100% match was - JEALOUS! Well... The pot does seem to be "bent"...
Stil waiting on reply from Mike Holton. But it is bent.....
Also, I watched there DVD tonight, and I was impressed... Was almost an hour long and covered everything.
If it was not welded in so many spots (good thing), I would try and fix it myself? But its got several welds within close proximity and and the stainless is bent.![[Hearth.com] Englander 10-CPM (bought, burn, and install)](https://www.hearth.com/talk/data/attachments/65/65273-32fb9f8d09cd5276085da9b9cff76389.jpg?hash=LrAVbTgnqH "[Hearth.com] Englander 10-CPM (bought, burn, and install)")
Stil waiting on reply from Mike Holton. But it is bent.....
Also, I watched there DVD tonight, and I was impressed... Was almost an hour long and covered everything.
If it was not welded in so many spots (good thing), I would try and fix it myself? But its got several welds within close proximity and and the stainless is bent.
Dexter, I can tell you that my pot does NOT look like that....it's not right. IMO, it should be replaced.
jrsdws
Feeling the Heat
I dont think this is there standard of work... With that many units. There is bound to be something that gets past QC.
Chit happens
Yes, just like I had to grind down the Top Auger knit line from their casting in the 25-PDV! Then the auger turned freely and will not wear out auger motors every couple years!
See pics
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/englander-25-pdv-drop-chute-jam.85348/#post-1097954
However I am sure there is a very logical explanation for this. Like the Robot Welder had a hiccup in the program from a static discharge and the Burn Pot QC inspector was out on vacation or using up his sick days!
And you know you'll be properly taken care of.
Pretty confident that they will. I have yet to see a case, where they didn't help someone.
Imacman and Jrsdws (any other CPM owners too), have you installed any washers inside the door handle? Looks like I can take the bolt out and slide 2 washers on each side of the handle to "tighten" it up. Has some side to side slop in it.
Also, is the gasket on the hopper gonna wear down? Or will it be stiff to close all the time? The piece that runs along the back lip of the hopper lid, makes for a tight close. I know its sealing well because of that. Just nit pickin I guess.
I definitely see me filling this stove more. My Quads Hopper (80 lbs) and the Fahrenheits hopper (112 lbs) have me spoiled. Even my old Stoves hopper seems much larger.
There are advantages as well as disadvantages to this unit. Still gonna do the Burn tonight. More pics to come. Overall. Still happy with my decision. As little BTU's as it takes to heat and keep the house warm. I doubt this unit should have a problem. The biggest thing is gomna be keeping it Full.
Imacman and Jrsdws (any other CPM owners too), have you installed any washers inside the door handle? Looks like I can take the bolt out and slide 2 washers on each side of the handle to "tighten" it up. Has some side to side slop in it.
Also, is the gasket on the hopper gonna wear down? Or will it be stiff to close all the time? The piece that runs along the back lip of the hopper lid, makes for a tight close. I know its sealing well because of that. Just nit pickin I guess.
I definitely see me filling this stove more. My Quads Hopper (80 lbs) and the Fahrenheits hopper (112 lbs) have me spoiled. Even my old Stoves hopper seems much larger......
No, haven't had to install any washers on door handle, but might be something I'll try in the future.
Hopper gasket will soften up a little over time, but you could try loosening the latches a little.
As far as the hopper goes, it's capacity was fully stated before you bought it.....I used to have an Astoria and miss that huge hopper too, but it is what it is.
Even with the bent handle, corner blemish and burn pot, you got a steal on the stove, Dexter. Those pictures have me drooling for one.
Good luck getting it sorted out and installed.
Good luck getting it sorted out and installed.
Folks what follows is something to stir the pot and should not be tried at home.
Well you could see if your code inspector will let you attach a 20 yard hopper to it. That should last a season or two. I'd expect the folks at England would not approve however.
I knew I was getting a smaller hopper when I bought it. But it wont hurt me to fill it twice a day
Also, there is a hopper extension out for the PDVC (or at least people have made them). The CPM does not have one. Although it has a hopper safety switch, my Fahrenheit does also and there is extension out for it. So it has to be possible to make one.
Making it appear to have a "Step Top" may imorove the looks of this sexy stove already. !! As for the 20 yard hopper.... You know me Smokey, the Bigger the "Hoppa" the better.. I think Krooser had a Girl with a Big Hoppa! LOL
Be VERY careful adding anything like that to your new unit.....warranty will be void instantly.
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