$40 ,000 plus ,,, that will be a one year run... I also see a diesel Chevy car model ad,, turning on the dash , it went over all the car parameters including exhaust fluid level,, no thanks!
Dodge 1500 Diesel
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Oh I don't know about that. Have you priced the current year HD tucks with a diesel option? Good luck getting into something in the low $50's. It ain't like the old days.
My personal feeling is that they will get the bugs sorted out. This reminds me of when they added emission to gas cars.
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Dodge 3/4 ton SLT Mega Cab with 6.7 liter Cummins turbo diesel & 6-speed manual trans: MSRP = $47,055.
<-- was just shopping for a new truck with manual trans. didn't really want the diesel, tho.
The diesel + 8 sp tranny is $2850. Bringing the base price up to just under $29K. For sure you can option this out up to $40K, but it would be pretty tricked out by that point. Who needs leather in a pickup?
The trucks I drive average 6.5-7 mpg. The def tank holds 11 gallons, and last for ~3000 miles. Bulk def at a truck stop is less than $3/gal.
The last I knew, Dodge/Cummins didn't use def, at the expense of more regen cycles, which creates another set of issues. Talk to people with International trucks with the Maxxforce engines, and you'll hear similar things.
Not a fan of new diesels. BR hit the nail on the head. One nice feature of our new Freightliners, though, is that there is only a turn down at the exhaust outlet, instead of a stack. There is no smoke, and hardly any noticeable odor at all. No more white trailers with giant black stains at the top right corner.
That's why I'm taking care of my 2004 , 5 spd standard Dodge Cummins,,, No way I'm paying 60k for new truck to bathe in the winter salt...She's got 141K on the speedo, bought it with 83K.. Amsoil in everything and runs like a clock.. Days of the smooth straight 6 are gone..That was an industrial engine.. All the new diesels are all homeowner grade now.. I've had more then one person want to buy my truck if I ever decide to sell it...
Ashful
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I don't understand... things usually always get better, when congress decides to involve themselves in any matter!
I'm not so sure that I would write it off that easily. I see it as the early years of the catalytic convertor or the rack and pinion steering, the progression from carb to TBI to direct injection, etc. Yes, there will be a learning curve, but there is no reason it can't be a success. Heck, our neighbors to the North and over the pond have been running small diesels for decades.
I can't disagree that any of that is possible, but right now diesel isn't cost competitive with gas for 90% of the consumer market. Problem is you need that market to make it cost competitive. I sincerely hope it does catch on, but I'm not holding my breath either.
I looked it up and those are the reports though I am a little skeptical still. I looked at KBB.com and they do not have the option listed. I imagine that price would be for a regular cab work truck. So I will stand corrected.
I have not been able to find one that cheap and I have looked. Is that for a two wheel drive? It wasn't that long ago when one could get a 2WD Dodge DRW with a 5.9 Cummins in the $20's.
MSRP on 2wd SRW plain Jane 6.7 is $37K. If you want the HD tranny add another 3k. The diesel and a tranny upgrade adds over 10 to the sticker.
Ashful
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Nope... that's 4wd. You act as if $47k is cheap! It's almost double what I've spent on any other pickup, including the one I'm driving today.
That's not much more the a VW diesel..... They might just sell a load of those Dodge Diesels..
Nope... that's 4wd. You act as if $47k is cheap! It's almost double what I've spent on any other pickup, including the one I'm driving today.
No it's almost like a freeking mortgage payment for 6 or 7 years. I looked at a 06 SLT 4WD Dodge, the last of the 5.9's without emissions. Invoice minus the $5k rebate was $34k something. Looking at dealerships, I have scene very few half tons that are in the $20's anymore. I am in perpetual sticker shock!
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It looks like Ford doesn't believe a 1/2 ton diesel will be worth the manufacturing effort. Nissan on other hand is currently getting sized for a straight jacket with its idea of a 4cyl diesel in a Titan. Really
Ford officials, speaking at a press event at the company's development center, said there are no plans to build a diesel-powered F-150 anytime soon.
Nissan is currently working on a program with Cummins to develop a four-cylinder diesel power plant for Nissan's upcoming redesign of its full-size Titan pickup.
Initial testing of the Cummins' 2.8-liter, four-cylinder diesel was aimed at delivering 210 horsepower and 385 pound-feet of torque.
http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/for...hrysler-says-ram-1500-diesel-makes-sense.html
Ford officials, speaking at a press event at the company's development center, said there are no plans to build a diesel-powered F-150 anytime soon.
Nissan is currently working on a program with Cummins to develop a four-cylinder diesel power plant for Nissan's upcoming redesign of its full-size Titan pickup.
Initial testing of the Cummins' 2.8-liter, four-cylinder diesel was aimed at delivering 210 horsepower and 385 pound-feet of torque.
http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/for...hrysler-says-ram-1500-diesel-makes-sense.html
wouldnt take much as they sell diesel powered rangers to the rest of the world (hell they even redesigned them everywhere else but here)It looks like Ford doesn't believe a 1/2 ton diesel will be worth the manufacturing effort. Nissan on other hand is currently getting sized for a straight jacket with its idea of a 4cyl diesel in a Titan. Really
Ford officials, speaking at a press event at the company's development center, said there are no plans to build a diesel-powered F-150 anytime soon.
Nissan is currently working on a program with Cummins to develop a four-cylinder diesel power plant for Nissan's upcoming redesign of its full-size Titan pickup.
Initial testing of the Cummins' 2.8-liter, four-cylinder diesel was aimed at delivering 210 horsepower and 385 pound-feet of torque.
http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/ford-says-no-to-f-150-diesel-but-chrysler-sasys-ram-1500-diesel-makes-sense.html
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4BT only weighs about 750lbs... about the same as an older cast iron 302 v-8. Not an issue at all. A guy in my town just bought a 6bt 5.9 cummins (1100lbs) from me and put it in a Ford Mustang. A 1/2 ton truck can handle it.
Yawn.
Fuel mileage would have to be spectacular (30+) to make it worth swallowing the likely hefty price premium as those numbers are sub-standard for many of the new half-tons with gas engines. GM's 2014 5.3L V8 is making 385lb ft of torque as well as an additional 145HP over that baby Cummins, and it will be in the vast majority of new Sierrias/Silverados. With the cylinder deactivation and direct injection (new for 2014) it should get north of 20MPG on the street. Seeing is believing of course.
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