Squisher
Minister of Fire
I am coming to the conclusion that for my wants and needs, this stove isn't for me.
I feel I can get better heating, going to a secondary burn type of stove or a furnace, with a strong lean towards a furnace equipped with it's own distribution ducting and, possibly, return air system to be used when the furnace is on. Will be discussing the options with a definite eye to code compliance as well as heat output. The downside to a furnace, is the need for power to run it. I have a couple generators around, but...
A while ago someone asked about the cost to run the blower fans to distribute the heat around the house. Well, without any real numbers, I will say that it is a lot cheaper to run the fans, at say 1/3 HP/250 or so watts, than to run the fans PLUS 68000 BTU of electric heat element in the furnace. The general layout around here is not very conducive to running a combined wood/electric furnace, which would incur more costs, again.
Sitting and watching the way the gasses flow around the inside of the airbox as the stove is lit, as well as when the stove is loaded over a bed of coals, I see no possibility of dragging enough air through the bypass door, to be able to keep any reasonable amount of airflow through the door, which is easily over 5 times the area of the bypass. That the bypass is in the center of the ceiling of the interior of the stove, and some distance below the height of the top of the door, exacerbates this problem. Now, you add the sloped inwards door, allowing the smoke off the near ends of a fresh load to rise straight up and out, and that leaves me really not liking this. The stink, well, simply makes me angry about the stove when I have to smell it. I have found that I cannot load the stove or relight it and then add wood, without having to endure it. At best, it's 'not as bad', as opposed to my desire, which is 'it's not a problem'.
Now, I am of the opinion that spending another whackload on the chimney, isn't going to make this go away. This I conclude, based upon the way the stove behaves when relighting, with the bypass open, and having to carefully modulate the amount the door is open, even while the flames within, are driving straight up the chimney through the bypass, circumstances which on the previous stove, essentially allowed me to leave the door wide open, while I fed in more fuel.
And yeah, insulating down here would be an improvement. as was pointed out though, it wasn't that big a deal, until I swapped out the stove for one that I thought should have been quite a case of overkill for my circumstances, if all you went by was comparative examination of the rated outputs.
I have been getting pretty much the temps I am told I should be(high 700's F), on top of the stove, as well as the burn times I am led to believe I should (10+ hours on a full load, on Maximum setting), and the heat just does not seem to be there.
All said and done, I will see in a couple days, what will end up happening to this stove, if it will be traded in, sold privately, or installed somewhere that does not require extensive modifications to existing infrastructure, in order that it meet the installation instructions and recommendations to the letter.
In any case, the heating season will be coming to a close very soon, I have a Pacific Energy (not sure the model, but not their largest) stove that I can install in the meantime, if I must, to get through the shoulder season. Or I put off giving away the old RSF (destined to become a heater in a Sauna, out in the bush near here, and re-install that.
As I posted on another Forum, I don't really care if the new stove runs on a mixture of spotted owl fat, baby seal tears, and shredded tires, as long as it throws heat, and lots of it.
Will keep y'all posted as to the discussions. Probably Wed night, or Thursday, if I am late getting home.
Cheers
Trev
Well, because the OP is still actively engaged and has repeatedly updated the thread with his progress. And despite all sorts of i think interesting side conversations(besides the unpleasantness) the topic is progressing and it would be nice to find out the eventual conclusion. I think.