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Feeling the Heat
beautiful! i don't care how good you can make pex look it can never compare to something like this. nice work!!
beautiful! i don't care how good you can make pex look it can never compare to something like this. nice work!!
thanks. i have had great luck with calleffi. i do have trouble with the autofill/ back flow preventer though. always venting and sticking, so i use watts for those as well nowThose look like Z-one valves from Caleffi and Watts manifolds.............. Both my favorites.
Very nice looking work! Thumbs up to you sir!
TS
25k in labor. wow, what did you build? can we see pics? I love seeing massive copper jobs.Hi Tennman
If you have the time and aren't rushed you could do the copper and solder.
When i did my boiler and storage install i had never done anything like that,soldered up a basement suite and a few repairs was the extent of my experience 3/4 was the biggest pipe i had soldered.I used about 50% used fittings and all used pipe for my boiler room.I had over 150 soldered joints and ended up with 2 leaks,both were sealed with a little heat and solder.I bought a Map gas kit and got the B tank.Lot's of cleaning,lot's of care and attention.The shop i got all my stuff from told my wife to be patient because i was saving over 25K in labor.She had been bitching about how long it was taking me,that stopped
Thomas
incredible!! a true work of art!! you should be proud of yourself. so pristine. excellent job. this is magazine worthy, no doubt!! do you mind if I copy this and show it to my employees? they are all cocky and need to see what real craftsmanship looks like. plus I am a member of another site and they would appreciate this.Nice install Fuelfarmer. I went with black pipe to go with existing conditions. It sure was harder to do with the crappy import fittings
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It wasn't all that massive,but we live 100 miles from any trades so travel adds up,and we are up where shop time starts at $80.00.I'm sure the underground lines.and the work in the house would have been in that figure.25k in labor. wow, what did you build? can we see pics? I love seeing massive copper jobs.
incredible!! a true work of art!! you should be proud of yourself. so pristine. excellent job. this is magazine worthy, no doubt!! do you mind if I copy this and show it to my employees? they are all cocky and need to see what real craftsmanship looks like. plus I am a member of another site and they would appreciate this.
I'm kicking myself for not going copper to begin with as I value my time over the $300 or so I might have saved doing it all BI. Plus, I like the looks of the copper better.
Briquetmaker/Andy, OMG.... So.... do you want to do any plumbing on the side when cabinet work gets slow.... Tennessee is very pleasant this time of year with lots of good college football in the area , tours of Jack Daniels, the Space Flight Center. You need to find Gasifer's "Show me your system" thread from several years ago and add yours to it. Are you able to keep that room spotless like that during the burn season? Something tells me you have a lot of happy cabinet customers. Wow. FYI, when my system was up to temp I painted my BI with red Rustoleum like I had seen in Government facilities. So easy since I dried as I brushed it on. Yours may be insulated now. But congrats on a fantastic job!
I'm leaning copper since this will the only storage system either I or my heirs will ever own.
Nice install Fuelfarmer. I went with black pipe to go with existing conditions. It sure was harder to do with the crappy import fittings
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This makes me drool! I've only done simple runs for gas lines but it seems to me that a drawback to black iron is that if you have a leak, you have to rework every joint back to the end or a union. any way around this?
The guy who told me how to do my system had me use hemp.I did a test when i was testing my tanks and plugged the openings.I used Teflon tape on some,pipe dope on some,and tape and dope on some.And hemp and pipe dope on the rest.I was testing to 80 psi,the only method that didn't leak was the hemp and dope.All the others stopped leaking with more tightening.I had zero leaks in over 150 threaded fittings.This makes me drool! I've only done simple runs for gas lines but it seems to me that a drawback to black iron is that if you have a leak, you have to rework every joint back to the end or a union. any way around this?
I guess I don't understand how the solder sticks to the copper if it is not scuffed up. I have done it accidently before and it did hold but it eventually blew apart. maybe I will try this at my house. I will be adding some in floor radiant. I wouldn't do it at a customers house.As far as flux for soldering, my all time favorite is Griffon S-39 Universal. It is a water soluble red paste, using new pipe and fittings I don't even clean/sand them anymore, just apply flux to the pipe(I don't do the fitting, I like trying to keep as much flux out of the piping as possible), apply heat(get a nice crosstech torch, best on the market in my opinion) and then add the solder, I typically use 95-5 as it makes for a stronger joint.
Just want to add, there are some nice install pictures in this thread!
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