Considering a Woodsman Stove
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What is that, 12-13 feet? On the short side as most of the new stoves like 15 feet for optimal draft.
With your budget and heating requirements I would see if you can find an Englander NC 30, they were selling for under $700 a few months back, you might need to add a brace and another section of class a chimney. The best would be to replace it all with 6" chimney, but I would see if it works on the 8" with extensions first.
With your budget and heating requirements I would see if you can find an Englander NC 30, they were selling for under $700 a few months back, you might need to add a brace and another section of class a chimney. The best would be to replace it all with 6" chimney, but I would see if it works on the 8" with extensions first.
Honestly we don't have a set in stone budget. Depends on what we get out of the dw. So it needs to 15' above the stove?
Don't expect to get much for that DW, most in this area sell for $200-300. 15 feet is what most stoves are tested on, it might work on less, I have seen some people get away with less but with the same stove some people have to add a few feet. With it being an 8" class a pipe I would add extra.
Most modern stoves will want at least 15-16' of flue, but there are a few exceptions. We've had reports of some cat stoves working ok with a shorter chimney. In non-cat the Quadrafire Isle Royale and Pacific Energy stoves do ok with a little less. I have a friend that has a Summit running on about 13 ft of flue that is working ok.
I can think of a couple Fireviews (cat) that run OK on 13', including the one I sold my BIL. Manual says 14.
Look at the manual for a stove you are considering; They will usually list the recommended minimum chimney height. Some stoves breathe easier than others. I just looked at the Hearthstone Manchester again...they require only 10'...from the floor!
That's the shortest I recall seeing. As mentioned, you can always add another section of chimney, you just need to brace it if it's over 5'.
I'm waiting for someone to install a Manchester with that short a chimney and light it up in fall before recommending it.
My husband stopped at a local shop.... is $1800 a good price for a Quadra-fire Cumberland Gap? Would that stove fit our needs?
Not seeing it on their website...discontinued and replaced by the Explorer II? $1800 sounds pretty good, is that a closeout price?
That is a discontinued model now, but a good stove. If the stove is not enameled $1880 is a fair price, maybe try for better now knowing it is discontinued? If it is an enameled version, then it's a good price.
It's a sale price, they are trying to move some models. It's not enameled. Seems like they would deal a little more but she told him the new explorer II is made with cheaper materials. She was firm on price.
I think you are right LOL I'm going to start a new thread to consider other stoves. Thanks for your help!
A lot of other stoves have already been mentioned here. It might save time to just continue this thread with all the info here. Otherwise it just has to be repeated.
Yep, you're gonna need to go big, trying to heat from one end of the house. Unless you put the Cumberland at the other end of the house....but feeding two stoves is a pain, and you've got 8" stack on the Dw.
I load the Dw from the side, and no lip is no problem. I'm seeing some pics of the Cumberland with ash lips, front and side. Options you can get, maybe.
I would think that the Cumberland Gap will at least meet or exceed the performance of the current 2460. That said I recommend going up a size to the Isle Royale.
Yep, The Gap isn't that much bigger. With their cat problems (wet wood?) they weren't getting much heat from the Dw, either. With dry wood, and the blower on the Dw, it will put out some heat but not enough to heat that space, from that location.
Since you have an 8" chimney already, take a look a the Kuma Sequoia. http://kumastoves.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=15
Another big cat, but I think it's less costly. Closest dealer is about an hour away.
Our moisture meter came today, of course even the shed rafters were reading high. Humidity is at least 90%. Most of the wood was 20% Thanks for all the comments, we went to the store & looked at the Cumberland gap stove again, they realized it had been a used as a demo model so the sales lady knocked another $400 off! So we are going to get it. Plus put 2 more sections of pipe on the chimney.
Long term goal is to order a huge big stove &/or get an outdoor wood boiler. But this should fill the gap until we can afford that.
Long term goal is to order a huge big stove &/or get an outdoor wood boiler. But this should fill the gap until we can afford that.
Nice deal. A slightly used Cumberland Gap for $1300 is a decent price. Is it painted or enamel? I think you'll find the CG bettering the past performance of the old DW. It's a good heater.
It's painted. I'm excited...it was such a difference to go from our fisher to the dw so I'm looking forwards to this being a decent upgrade as well. The dw is spoken for, so hopefully that works out.
Congrats on the stove. 
Did you re-split the splits and test on the freshly-exposed face?
Great, hope it works out well for them.
Remember to test on the face of a fresh split piece of wood, checking the ends will give low inaccurate results.
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