There's a local guy advertising all hardwoods,log length for a truckload.He says it's a 2 1/2 ton truck that can haul 4 cords?That doesn't quite seem to add up to me,but he quotes in the ad the size of a cord.I emailed him,it's 375 delivered.It's all hickory,oak,etc...I emailed him back about the length of the logs,exact wood,etc but haven't heard back.Does this sound like something to take a chance on?
CL listing,is it possible?
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The guy just emailed back and says it comes in 16 ft lengths.I can get all hickory,oak or whatever.The truck has no boom so he cuts it in 6 to 8 ft lengths on the truck and dumps it.
Gonna have to say no.
according to this site a chord of seasoned oak or hiccory weighs in excess of 2 tons.
http://mb-soft.com/juca/print/firewood.html
4 chords would be 8 tons, so unless he has an extra 5.5 tons in a 3 ton paper bag I'm gonna haave to say its suspect. Maybe he is talking about face chords?
according to this site a chord of seasoned oak or hiccory weighs in excess of 2 tons.
http://mb-soft.com/juca/print/firewood.html
4 chords would be 8 tons, so unless he has an extra 5.5 tons in a 3 ton paper bag I'm gonna haave to say its suspect. Maybe he is talking about face chords?
I can get almost 2 cord in my 6 ton GVWR 6x12 dump trailer behind my 3/4 ton truck if I stack it. 4 cord may be doable on a truck with a 33,000lb GVWR. He is probably talking about a truck something like this.
(broken link removed to http://www.ironplanet.com/jsp/s/item/224898/Dump-Truck:-Single-or-Tandem-axle/Ford/F750/Used/North-Carolina?h=405,3267)
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So a 5000 pound truck can carry 16000 pounds? That must be some truck. All i'm saying is that is sounds a bit iffy.
Its gotta be either multiple trips, pulling a large trailer with a f650, or not true chords.
Its gotta be either multiple trips, pulling a large trailer with a f650, or not true chords.
4cyl2v8 said:
Where do you get 5000# from???
Think of it this way, A 1500 pick up is a 1/2 to -or- 1000lb the payload on the smallest engine is 1640 lbs which is still over 3/4 of a ton.
Now.... the fact that it's a Ford means it's gonna drop it's rear end and blow up and cause cancer, so none of this really matters anyway!
He got 5000 from 2 1/2 tons... 2000+2000+1000=5000. I say you should ask him where he is and if you can stop by and look at it before you waste his time rejecting a load that you are not satisfied with. I've got a F-700 that I carry 20,000 lbs on nearly every day but I wouldn't say it's a 2 1/2 ton truck... it's more like a 7 ton truck. It doesn't sound right to me, but it may just be different terminology. It may be worth your time to find him in person and then give him an offer lower than what he's asking to see if you can shave a few dollars off it. Lots of people are looking for money and you may be able to deal even if it's 4 full cords.
Back in the day what is now a "medium duty" truck like the 33,000lb MGW Ford in the linked ad would have been called a 2 1/2 ton truck. The 2 1/2 ton is not the exact rated payload. My 70 F350 is a "1 ton" truck with a MGW of 8300 and a curb weight of about 5500 lbs. Its payload is about 2800. With helper springs the MGW went up to 10,000 or about 4500 payload. My '00 F250 is a "3/4 ton" with a MGW of 8800 and weighs about 6000 with a payload of about 2800. If the truck has the promised volume of wood on it when he shows up you will get what you pay for. Let him worry about the weight.
4cyl2v8 said:
My guess would be we are speaking of wood cords not musical chords...
4 chords would fit easily in the back of a 2.5 ton truck... even if they were played on a piano.
It’s easily done Kartracer. The old “tonnage” rating is from many many years ago. It just doesn’t seem to die. It lingers more with folks that are unfamiliar with trucks and their ratings than with people that deal with medium or heavy trucks on a daily basis. The correct rating of the chassis is based on the trucks manufactured GVWR or Gross Vehicle Weight Rating. The factors that comprise this rating are the least rated components of the tires, wheels, suspension, brakes and axles. On occasion, a frame may enter the equation but as a general rule that is only a way to rate a unit below 26,000 GVWR.
In the case of the truck represented, it is rated at 33,000 GVWR. To be rather elementary, you can take that rated weight and deduct the weight of the chassis and bed. Let’s plug that number at 11,750 lbs since we don’t have an exact number. That should be fairly close though. That leaves 21,250 lbs for payload, fuel driver & misc. Let’s use an estimate of 700 lbs for fuel, driver & misc. That leaves a payload of 20,550 lbs. At this point you should see where this is going. Without going into bridge formulas and how the load is distributed, the guy could haul in excess of 4 cords in one load. Now if he has a lighter rated GVWR chassis and still hauls that weight, well so be it. That’s his problem.
In answer to your question, yes the 2 ½ ton truck will haul 4 cords.
In the case of the truck represented, it is rated at 33,000 GVWR. To be rather elementary, you can take that rated weight and deduct the weight of the chassis and bed. Let’s plug that number at 11,750 lbs since we don’t have an exact number. That should be fairly close though. That leaves 21,250 lbs for payload, fuel driver & misc. Let’s use an estimate of 700 lbs for fuel, driver & misc. That leaves a payload of 20,550 lbs. At this point you should see where this is going. Without going into bridge formulas and how the load is distributed, the guy could haul in excess of 4 cords in one load. Now if he has a lighter rated GVWR chassis and still hauls that weight, well so be it. That’s his problem.
In answer to your question, yes the 2 ½ ton truck will haul 4 cords.
Thanks for the replys.I talked to a guy a little while ago who has bought from him and said he is straight up.A lot of the wood has already been cut but not split obviously,that is why he said all the hickory would be green.He said when he got his load there was a little extra to make up for the airspace,he didn't measure it,but said he could not have bought the same amount for less anywhere around here.Hickory here seems to bring a premium with all the bbq smokers and sells it at the same price.
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