Ceramic Fiber Board (Englander 30-NC)

[Kaptain]

My theory is that the gap between the two boards in the NC-30 is intentional. With that bit of a gap, when you bump the top of the stove during loading, the boards have room to move, reducing the likelihood of breakage. When you jam a steel rod in there and lock them firmly in place, they become a lot more fragile, as they have nowhere to go when they're bumped. I thought this through extensively before deciding against adding a piece of threaded rod.

I'm happy with the factory performance and emissions ratings, but by all means, jam that threaded rod in there, you'll help Englander sell more replacement baffles.

That's why I used a 1/8th stainless steel rod inside a piece of stove gasket. It allows a bit a give while fully sealing the gap.

 

[Seasoned Oak]

I'm having trouble understanding what you added to your 30, do you have any pics of the mod?

Thanks,

The baffle boards had a quarter inch gap in the middle so i added a quarter inch by about 19" long steel rod along the side to close the gap. this keeps the wood gas from sneaking around the side of the baffle board and going right up the flue. All wood gasses are forced to travel to the front of the stove as designed and go around the front of the baffle boards before traveling along the top of the boards to the flue. The stove now burns hotter ,cleaner with little or no smoke out the flue. You can find the steel rod in various widths and lengths at your local hardware store.

 

[FTG-05]

OK, now I got it. The threaded rod was a fancy spacer. Doh!

Thanks!

 

[BobUrban]

FTG - a welding rod or something thinner than the gap stuffed inside some gasket rope fills the gap and offers some flex in the event the boards move under high heat or get bumped. Just another option

 

[Seasoned Oak]

I put it on the side as not tot add weight to the center of the air tubes possibly causing them to sag when they get cherry red.

 

[johnpma]

All this talk so what are the dimensions of the two boards suppose to be?????

Found this stuff:


http://www.mcmaster.com/#insulation-boards/=vum5lr

 

[mopar440_6]

All this talk so what are the dimensions of the two boards suppose to be?????

Found this stuff:


http://www.mcmaster.com/#insulation-boards/=vum5lr

IIRC, 18-1/2" L x 9-5/8" W x 1/2" T but don't quote me on that. I can get actual measurements when I get home and update this post. Good call on McMaster. I look for everything on there and never even thought about baffle material.

 

[johnpma]

Installing the used 30 I picked up during the winter. Any word on the exact size of the boards. The boards with my used stove are in pieces......guy was kinda a hack

 

[johnpma]

Anyone purchase their ceramic boards from places other than englander? They are a bit steep.......I "pinged" nerefractory as he had a post here saying he sells the same stuff but better for less money and I think he is MIA

 

[blades]

Anyone purchase their ceramic boards from places other than englander? They are a bit steep.......I "pinged" nerefractory as he had a post here saying he sells the same stuff but better for less money and I think he is MIA

See if you have any kiln builders or rebuilders in your area Or industrial heat treat furnace repair shops they will likely have something that will work

 

[branchburner]

See if you have any kiln builders or rebuilders in your area Or industrial heat treat furnace repair shops they will likely have something that will work

For anyone in the Boston area, there is a really good place just off 93 in Woburn. They always have scraps of ceramic fiber board and blanket that can end up being a buck or two per sq ft, rather than 5 to 10 times that price:
(broken link removed to https://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/mad/5236554346.html)
http://www.smart-ceramics.com/insref.html

 

[Huntindog1]

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR3.TRC2.A0.H0.Xceramic fiber board.TRS0&_nkw=ceramic fiber board&_sacat=0

Also you can order ceramic blanket to to place on top of your ceramic baffle board.
Alot of stoves already come with the blanket but the NC30 doesnt. Makes for easier secondaries
at lower input air settings.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ceramic-Fib...s-1x-24-x24-/201372189243?hash=item2ee2b7c23b

 

[johnpma]

Thank you. When you add the blanket does it increase the fire box temp by much?

 

[branchburner]

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR3.TRC2.A0.H0.Xceramic fiber board.TRS0&_nkw=ceramic fiber board&_sacat=0


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ceramic-Fib...s-1x-24-x24-/201372189243?hash=item2ee2b7c23b

Yeah, the scraps from the ceramics supply house cost just a fraction of ebay... with shipping that blanket is $12/sf and I paid about $2/sf... 'course it only works if you have a place in easy and convenient driving distance

 

[johnpma]

Anyone know the dims of the two boards in the Englander 30?

 

[jacksnipe]

Anyone know the dims of the two boards in the Englander 30?

The boards in our new unused nc-30 measure 9 5/8" x 18 1/2" x 1/2" thick ea.

 

[johnpma]

The boards in our new unused nc-30 measure 9 5/8" x 18 1/2" x 1/2" thick ea.

Thank you Sir