Blaze King King 1107?

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FireWalker said:
...It's hard for me to believe that the BKK didn't do some serious smoldering during the last 20 of it's 40 hour burn...

The graph of the 47 hour burn that BK has on the King brochure shows the cat temp hanging right in there until the end, indicating that it is indeed burning the volatiles. So they do present some evidence that it was not smoldering. Their site is down at this moment. I will edit with a link to the brochure later.
 
"I'm not worried about Firewalker, it sounds like he's got a great stove and only has to load every 12 hrs which is very nice! I just wish they made one with a cat so you could smolder it for 40 hrs, not worry about smoke and creosote, and actually get some useful heat out of it!"

Me too! or even a bigger woodstock cat. Low and slow and long and soapstone AND clean would be great. I would sell my heritage.
 
VTZJ said:
Highbeam said:
...It's hard for me to believe that the BKK didn't do some serious smoldering during the last 20 of it's 40 hour burn...

The graph of the 47 hour burn that BK has on the King brochure shows the cat temp hanging right in there until the end, indicating that it is indeed burning the volatiles. So they do present some evidence that it was not smoldering. Their site is down at this moment. I will edit with a link to the brochure later.

Whoa VTZJ, how'd you do that? I didn't say that, it was firewalker on page one. I actually think that the last 20 hours of the 40 hour burn would be glowing remnants of the wood once loaded, very little smoke to be burned and the auto thermostat might need to bump up the air to keep it alive.
 
Highbeam said:
VTZJ said:
Highbeam said:
...It's hard for me to believe that the BKK didn't do some serious smoldering during the last 20 of it's 40 hour burn...

The graph of the 47 hour burn that BK has on the King brochure shows the cat temp hanging right in there until the end, indicating that it is indeed burning the volatiles. So they do present some evidence that it was not smoldering. Their site is down at this moment. I will edit with a link to the brochure later.

Whoa VTZJ, how'd you do that? I didn't say that, it was firewalker on page one. I actually think that the last 20 hours of the 40 hour burn would be glowing remnants of the wood once loaded, very little smoke to be burned and the auto thermostat might need to bump up the air to keep it alive.

Pardon me :red: . You are correct. Somehow in snipping a quote so it wasn't too long, I misattributed the quote to you. Sloppy snipping on my part. I went back and fixed my post. Nothing I can do about your capture of it though.
 
VTZJ said:
FireWalker said:
...It's hard for me to believe that the BKK didn't do some serious smoldering during the last 20 of it's 40 hour burn...

The graph of the 47 hour burn that BK has on the King brochure shows the cat temp hanging right in there until the end, indicating that it is indeed burning the volatiles. So they do present some evidence that it was not smoldering. Their site is down at this moment. I will edit with a link to the brochure later.

If this is the case, 40+ hour clean burn times while still producing useful heat, I see this stove as the true master of all big stoves. Outstanding in it's field and heating your home from out there. Talk about flexibility, low long burns, massive heat output if needed, what more could you ask for.
 
FireWalker said:
If this is the case, 40+ hour clean burn times while still producing useful heat, I see this stove as the true master of all big stoves. Outstanding in it's field and heating your home from out there. Talk about flexibility, low long burns, massive heat output if needed, what more could you ask for.

BK's site still down, but here's the graph of the 47 hour burn at a retailer's site: (broken link removed to http://www.portersmvs.com/Images/stoves/blaze_king/blazeking_pdf)
 
FireWalker said:
what more could you ask for.



Soapstone? Coming from an Equinox owner, I think that one would be a no-brainer :)
 
I got my soapstone because of it's extended heat life. Who cares what it's made of if it heats for 40 hours. Although I do prefer the looks of the Equinox over the BKK.
 
FireWalker said:
I got my soapstone because of it's extended heat life. Who cares what it's made of if it heats for 40 hours. Although I do prefer the looks of the Equinox over the BKK.


You mean HeatLife™
 
karri0n said:
FireWalker said:
I got my soapstone because of it's extended heat life. Who cares what it's made of if it heats for 40 hours. Although I do prefer the looks of the Equinox over the BKK.


You mean HeatLife™

Their attorney told them to do that, but yea.
 
Now it makes sense to me, according to the BKK site the average heat output for low burn is only 8400 btu/hr which won't heat my log home. High burn rates is only 47,000 btu/hr, so plenty of duration but lacking in the muscle department and it's not beautiful to look at. IMHO

(broken link removed to http://www.blazeking.com/Brochures-En/WoodProductPDF/KingWoodStove.pdf)

The Equinox is putting out over 60,000 btu/hr for its average setting and when cranked we go up to 120,000 btu/hr. I'll guess on low it's putting out 20,000. It's all sounding like math to me; lower heat output and longer burn times vs higher heat output and shorter burn times. What is the difference, how long does the BKK last at 47,000 btu/hr setting? well 8400 is approx. 1/6 of 47000 so 1/6 of 40 hours is............................... 7 hours???????? well that can't be.

(broken link removed to http://chimneysweeponline.com/wscompha.htm)

12 degrees F last night and I burned an armfull of wood with plenty of hot stuff left by morning, I thought for a moment there I didn't do enough research before I bought this monster. Nope I'm still happy!

Flexibility is the key with this wood heat game.
 
Talk to NORTH OF 60.
He has one and a log home in the Yukon.
Search for his posts.
 
Since I'm another recent convert to the Blaze King crowd, I thought I'd add my experience with my stove for what it's worth. Late last heating season I decided to change from my old Earth Stove to a used Blaze King. Mine is the KEJ-1101, it's a couple generations back from the 1107 and was made in 1984. It's still basically the same design, a big firebox and a cat to eat the smoke. I liked my Earth Stove, but didn't like the piles of wood it consumed or the creosote I had to clean out of my cap and chimney every couple of months. In my 1200 sq. ft. ranch with a full basement, the stove is downstairs in the family room and there's an open stairway to the main floor. Comparing between the two stoves, it seems like the Blaze King can make the wood last twice as long, I'll know for sure by the end of the season. If I put in a couple of 6" rounds of ash, I get 12 hours easy burning on low. I've loaded it up when I was going to be away, came back 36 hours later and the stove was just starting cool down. Granted, that was on a low burn, but it kept the house at 74 degrees in 40 degree weather. I opened it up and found about a 3" bed of coals, that was after starting up in a cold stove. With it's big belly it'll hold a load of ash too, no daily cleanings here. I suppose you could go around a month between cleaning it out, but it would be pretty deep. I suppose I do it every couple of weeks or so, just to make room for all the wood you can stuff in it.

My twice daily routine now that it's around freezing is to open the stove, stoke the coals around, and put in two or three pieces of wood or whatever will fit in it. I don't cram the firebox full, but I don't leave much room in there either. I don't do it at 12 hours exactly. If I leave early for work that day and stay out late, it might be more like 16 hours. Not to worry, the Blaze King is still heating away. I've got elm, ash, and hedge this year to burn. If I'm using elm, I fill the fire box. With the ash or hedge (osage orange) I'll put in enough to give me one layer above the coals. And that coasts me through till the next stoke and load session. Letting the coal bed build up and putting more wood in twice a day seems to work well for me. That way the cat doesn't drop below the active temp of about 500 degrees. Here is the sequence, open bypass door, open door, stoke coals, load wood in stove, close loading door, close bypass door with side handle. That's it, I probably shouldn't say it, but it so easy, even my wife can do it.

Here's the bottom line, the Blaze King gives long burn times, steady even heat output, cleaner chimney and lower wood consumption. If I were ever to need a new stove, the Blaze King 1107 would be on the short list, but I've got to admit that those soapstone stoves are a thing of beauty, that Equinox is a looker.
 
Dewey2 said:
Since I'm another recent convert to the Blaze King crowd, I thought I'd add my experience with my stove for what it's worth. Late last heating season I decided to change from my old Earth Stove to a used Blaze King. Mine is the KEJ-1101, it's a couple generations back from the 1107 and was made in 1984. It's still basically the same design, a big firebox and a cat to eat the smoke. I liked my Earth Stove, but didn't like the piles of wood it consumed or the creosote I had to clean out of my cap and chimney every couple of months. In my 1200 sq. ft. ranch with a full basement, the stove is downstairs in the family room and there's an open stairway to the main floor. Comparing between the two stoves, it seems like the Blaze King can make the wood last twice as long, I'll know for sure by the end of the season. If I put in a couple of 6" rounds of ash, I get 12 hours easy burning on low. I've loaded it up when I was going to be away, came back 36 hours later and the stove was just starting cool down. Granted, that was on a low burn, but it kept the house at 74 degrees in 40 degree weather. I opened it up and found about a 3" bed of coals, that was after starting up in a cold stove. With it's big belly it'll hold a load of ash too, no daily cleanings here. I suppose you could go around a month between cleaning it out, but it would be pretty deep. I suppose I do it every couple of weeks or so, just to make room for all the wood you can stuff in it.

My twice daily routine now that it's around freezing is to open the stove, stoke the coals around, and put in two or three pieces of wood or whatever will fit in it. I don't cram the firebox full, but I don't leave much room in there either. I don't do it at 12 hours exactly. If I leave early for work that day and stay out late, it might be more like 16 hours. Not to worry, the Blaze King is still heating away. I've got elm, ash, and hedge this year to burn. If I'm using elm, I fill the fire box. With the ash or hedge (osage orange) I'll put in enough to give me one layer above the coals. And that coasts me through till the next stoke and load session. Letting the coal bed build up and putting more wood in twice a day seems to work well for me. That way the cat doesn't drop below the active temp of about 500 degrees. Here is the sequence, open bypass door, open door, stoke coals, load wood in stove, close loading door, close bypass door with side handle. That's it, I probably shouldn't say it, but it so easy, even my wife can do it.

Here's the bottom line, the Blaze King gives long burn times, steady even heat output, cleaner chimney and lower wood consumption. If I were ever to need a new stove, the Blaze King 1107 would be on the short list, but I've got to admit that those soapstone stoves are a thing of beauty, that Equinox is a looker.

great explanation Dewey! I recently installed the princess insert and my very limited experience has been the same. I tend to "overthink" the stove, but I am learning every day that it is a set it and forget it type appliance. I couldnt be happier with mine. I am using 6 small pieces of wood every 24 hours, and it keeps our home toasty warm. haven't turned on the heat pump since it was installed.
 
FireWalker said:
Now it makes sense to me, according to the BKK site the average heat output for low burn is only 8400 btu/hr which won't heat my log home. High burn rates is only 47,000 btu/hr, so plenty of duration but lacking in the muscle department and it's not beautiful to look at. IMHO

(broken link removed to http://www.blazeking.com/Brochures-En/WoodProductPDF/KingWoodStove.pdf)

The Equinox is putting out over 60,000 btu/hr for its average setting and when cranked we go up to 120,000 btu/hr. I'll guess on low it's putting out 20,000. It's all sounding like math to me; lower heat output and longer burn times vs higher heat output and shorter burn times. What is the difference, how long does the BKK last at 47,000 btu/hr setting? well 8400 is approx. 1/6 of 47000 so 1/6 of 40 hours is............................... 7 hours???????? well that can't be.

(broken link removed to http://chimneysweeponline.com/wscompha.htm)

12 degrees F last night and I burned an armfull of wood with plenty of hot stuff left by morning, I thought for a moment there I didn't do enough research before I bought this monster. Nope I'm still happy!

Flexibility is the key with this wood heat game.

Actually that 47,000 BTU number is EPA. Blaze King states 90,000 BTU 's with hardwood. Your right tho, You only get so many BTU's out of the same pound of wood and it can be streched out in a long burn or given to you in a short period. Efficiency also plays a roll in those BTU's and that's another can of worms.
 
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