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Real life: I know of 2 people who have returned or swapped their Wodstock stoves in after being used for a full season, free of charge, no questions asked. I know of 1 BK stove owner who was not satisfied with his stove as it did not come anywhere close to the performance #'s publisehd, BK and/or the dealer would not take it back.

Somebody say "Customer Service"?

Now back to the Ashford. Or better yet, the Chinnook, same firebox right? I actually like the look of the Chinook.

That's not customer service. That's a strange policy that I would hope to never use. Sure, walmart will take back a box of cereal after I've eaten half of it but I don't think that is anything special. All woodstock customers pay for policies like this since you know that the owners of woodstock aren't taking that loss out of their paycheck.

I don't think that anybody should be too proud of that policy. Woodstock or the customers that have taken advantage of it/them.
 
That's not customer service. That's a strange policy that I would hope to never use. Sure, walmart will take back a box of cereal after I've eaten half of it but I don't think that is anything special. All woodstock customers pay for policies like this since you know that the owners of woodstock aren't taking that loss out of their paycheck.

I don't think that anybody should be too proud of that policy. Woodstock or the customers that have taken advantage of it/them.

Keep saying that, you might even start to believe it!
 
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Real life: I know of 2 people who have returned or swapped their Wodstock stoves in after being used for a full season, free of charge, no questions asked. I know of 1 BK stove owner who was not satisfied with his stove as it did not come anywhere close to the performance #'s publisehd, BK and/or the dealer would not take it back.

Somebody say "Customer Service"?

Now back to the Ashford. Or better yet, the Chinnook, same firebox right? I actually like the look of the Chinook.
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Woodstock does monitor this site. They often initiate action after reading posts from Woodstock owners.


Uh ,oh ! ...........Heh heh
 
Woodstock does monitor this site. They often initiate action after reading posts from Woodstock owners.

Once in a blue moon I've even read a post from an employee. They seem to be great folks as well.
 
I have a 1,000 sq/ft basement that I think the Ashford would make a great addition to. I just installed a PE T6 on my main floor that is working great. I have only owned non-cat stoves, but I keep reading about cat stoves and the more I read the more I want. I love loading my T6 and watching it burn. It's in my living room so it works great. In the basement, I would love something smaller that I could load once a day. What do you think?
 
First of all, thank you Webby360 for your input in my ordering of an Blaze King Ashford 30.

I was pretty set on getting a Lopi Cape Cod until I read your sharing your experience of owning the two stoves. Since where I live is fairly temperate (not even 600 hours of sub-40 degree weather per year), he told me that the Cape Code would cook me out of my home. So, I opted for Ashford and am impatiently waiting for the enamel plated stove to come out. I am told that they are "optimistic" that the next batch of enamel stoves will be out around Christmas time. I'm hoping! Actually, I'm hoping they'll be out sooner.
Being that I essentially do not pay for firewood (I have my own Stihl saws and splitter), how much wood I burn is not an issue for me, other than the pollution it causes. THAT is why I am getting rid of my mega-polluting stove and going with Ashford. Its EPA emissions are listed at .97 grams per hour and, while I want to continue using a wood stove as my primary heating source, I do not want to be a significant contributor to polluting the environment.

To whom it may concern: From what I have seen, the Progress Hybrid is ugly and if I were to get a soapstone wood burning stove, it would be a Hearthstone Heritage (a stove I seriously considered until finding that it takes about 40 minutes to really get it and your room heated). So, if you love your PH, fine, but please stop trying to use anecdotal evidence to back up or justify your claims. I am sure I will love my BK Ashford. 8-)

FYI, I got a contractor discount and paid $3255 plus tax for my Ashford 30 with the enamel finish. No blower, just the enamel finish option.
 
To whom it may concern: From what I have seen, the Progress Hybrid is ugly and if I were to get a soapstone wood burning stove, it would be a Hearthstone Heritage (a stove I seriously considered until finding that it takes about 40 minutes to really get it and your room heated). So, if you love your PH, fine, but please stop trying to use anecdotal evidence to back up or justify your claims.

To each his own my friend. I find MOST stoves made today except for the very expensive (10,000+) fancy sweedish type stoves, are ugly. But those very expensive stoves are made to look nice, and don't heat quite as well from what I understand. However, as you already know but won't admit to (which is fine by us), the PH is the best looking stove under $10,000, by far. It also has some of the best specs of any of the stoves under 10k as well. Nothing anecdotal about any of that.

One thing you are VERY correct on is, the soapstone take a l-o-n-g time to heat up, and start heating the room. This is the only downfall I have found on my PH. The PH is 750 lbs, and takes a long time to heat up, so if you want quick heat, your not going to really get it. The upside to that of course is, it continues to deliver lots of heat, for many hours (3 to 4 hours in my experience) after the fire and coals are long gone. One nice thing Woodstock smartly did on the PH to combat the long heat up delay is, to make a big un-obstructed glass front which allows alot of heat to come out right away in front of the stove, this does help. But the real heat does not start for about 30 mintues to an hour.

I am sure I will love my BK Ashford. 8-)

I'm sure you will, BK makes a great stove, one I'd love to try one day. Just don't expect to get some of the miracles that some posters claim. Reality will sink in. ;) Good luck with it, and make sure we get some pics of the enamal finish.


PS- I'm amazed somebody in Santa Cruz Cali needs a "stove"? I've been there many a time, I've never seen it anywhere close to what I would cold "stove" weather. You sure you need a stove? ?
 
To each his own my friend. I find MOST stoves made today except for the very expensive (10,000+) fancy sweedish type stoves, are ugly. But those very expensive stoves are made to look nice, and don't heat quite as well from what I understand. However, as you already know but won't admit to (which is fine by us), the PH is the best looking stove under $10,000, by far.

As they say, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder." If we all liked the same things, there would only be one stove being made. Do you really think that Woodstock stove look nicer than Hearthstone's soapstone stoves? Not that it matters (at least to me, but FYI) the Equinox weighs 689 lbs. Maybe Hearthstone should add 12 more pounds of bricks so the Equinox will weigh 701 lbs. 8-)

"It (the PH) also has some of the best specs of any of the stoves under 10k as well. Nothing anecdotal about any of that."

As does the Ashford. Nothing anecdotal about that also.

"One thing you are VERY correct on is, the soapstone take a l-o-n-g time to heat up, and start heating the room. This is the only downfall I have found on my PH. The PH is 750 lbs, and takes a long time to heat up, so if you want quick heat, your not going to really get it. The upside to that of course is, it continues to deliver lots of heat, for many hours (3 to 4 hours in my experience) after the fire and coals are long gone. One nice thing Woodstock smartly did on the PH to combat the long heat up delay is, to make a big un-obstructed glass front which allows alot of heat to come out right away in front of the stove, this does help. But the real heat does not start for about 30 mintues to an hour."

When I come home from a night out and enter a chilly house, I often have my stove stoked, ready to light, and I want heat RIGHT NOW. Currently, I generally do not keep it burning because my stove is so inefficient and I see no need to heat a house with load of wood when I'm out. I suppose that once I get my BK Ashford, it will give me the luxury of burning it when I'm gone and returning to a comfy home, without feeling guilty for what I am doing to the environment.

"PS- I'm amazed somebody in Santa Cruz Cali needs a "stove"? I've been there many a time, I've never seen it anywhere close to what I would cold "stove" weather. You sure you need a stove? ?"

I need something to heat my home, don't I? I have not had my furnace on for over 29 years (have since capped off the gas line to it) and have used wood as my sole source of heat (with the occasional space heater used in a single room). When it's cold outside, the house can get cold enough to where you 'see your breath' and we do have nights where it will get below freezing. Another reason for not wanting a soapstone stove is, while we might have a cold night, the days can be warm enough to not warrant the use of the stove during the daytime. So, I don't need that extra 3 - 4 hours of heat from soapstone. Sometimes, I just want to take the chill off of the house in the morning and don't need prolonged heating.

An aside: Blaze King has reportedly had only about 7 orders of the enamel finished stoves, as most (as did Webby3650) are opting not to wait and are buying the black Ashfords. I expect to have this stove for a long, long time and decided to wait, rather later on wishing that I'd waited for what I really want. If BK doesn't deliver my stove soon, Webby3650 might already have his Ashford down in the basement before mine is even installed. ;->
 
I still find it funny that almost every thread about a BK or Woodstock has to end up being a BK vs Woodstock thread. Both are great stove makers end of story.

However, as you already know but won't admit to (which is fine by us), the PH is the best looking stove under $10,000, by far.

I sure hope this is tongue in cheek! ;lol
 
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Here is the measuring tape. Whip'em out and on the table. ;lol
 
You know, I didn't have to be around Hearth.com very long before I learned to whom I should listen and to whom I shouldn't. Thanks again Webby!
I base my reports on true life experience with many stoves, not just one stove. Woodstock makes a great stove, thats a fact, but it does not fit everyone's need. Nor can it compete with BK's burn times, that's just hard for some with limited experience to except.
 
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Currently I'm 15 hours into a burn and haven't touched the stove since I got home! Stove top is 300 on the iron top and the firebox is about half full of wood/coals. That's hard to beat considering it hasn't been over 45 here today and was down to 30 or so last night. That's hard to beat!
 
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That's not customer service. That's a strange policy that I would hope to never use. Sure, walmart will take back a box of cereal after I've eaten half of it but I don't think that is anything special. All woodstock customers pay for policies like this since you know that the owners of woodstock aren't taking that loss out of their paycheck.

I don't think that anybody should be too proud of that policy. Woodstock or the customers that have taken advantage of it/them.
Man I was glad they took back my Fireview when it wasn't enough to heat my space.In that scenerio that's all the customer service I needed and I was thankful for it.
 
Webby, the head to head challenge for the Ashford vs the Cape Cod is what I will be anxiously awaiting. The only drawback I can see with the Ashford for me would be the long burn times and me resisting the urge to fiddle with it since it seems to be a "set and forget" type of stove. Especially since being in Tennessee we don't get consistent, steady cold weather like you guys further north!
 
However, as you already know but won't admit to (which is fine by us), the PH is the best looking stove under $10,000, by far.
To quote Bigg_Redd: "Rilly?" I don't think the PH is the best looking stove in the $1,000 class, let alone opening it up to $10k.

Some people think beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I've seen your house. I have better taste than you. :p
 
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Webby, the head to head challenge for the Ashford vs the Cape Cod is what I will be anxiously awaiting. The only drawback I can see with the Ashford for me would be the long burn times and me resisting the urge to fiddle with it since it seems to be a "set and forget" type of stove. Especially since being in Tennessee we don't get consistent, steady cold weather like you guys further north!

Don't forget the flameshow. I sometimes really miss watching the fire.
 
I base my reports on true life experience with many stoves, not just one stove.

As do I. I deal in facts, and it helps a hell of a lot to have an engineering background to discrern the data. ;)


I need something to heat my home, don't I? I have not had my furnace on for over 29 years

I would not think so. My point was, I've never seen it get below 60 in Santa Cruz. The times I've been there it was closer to 90 or 100! ;) But I guess you do get some cold spells there.... One things for sure, the water is FREEZING there! Yikes, full suit in the middle of summer required when surfing.


Don't forget the flameshow. I sometimes really miss watching the fire.

Good point. I was just in a stove shop that was burning a Cape Cod and it was a georgious burn! Although it was an all out rager and the front door was open cause the place was baking.
 
I will say after I load the stove up I get nice pretty wispy flames for hours and that is with my air control turned all the way down. If I want flames I can always turn the air up a bit but then you burn through your wood faster.
 
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