Now that's what I'm talking about!precaud said:
Sounds like good stuff, sure doesn't sound anything like this Eastern white pine that has many Easterners turned off pine.
Googled it and it looks like it is also spelled Pinyon pine
Best type of pine?
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Sounds like good stuff, sure doesn't sound anything like this Eastern white pine that has many Easterners turned off pine.
Googled it and it looks like it is also spelled Pinyon pine
Carbon_Liberator said:
Yup, that's the whitey spelling
It's a bit of a magical tree in these parts. Pinon nuts are very tasty and bit of a delicacy. You may have had roasted pinon nuts with pesto sauce and not known it. The scent of burning pinon is very sweet and quite pleasant.
Considering their slow growth rate (200 years to produce a 1-foot diameter trunk), you can understand why I only use down and dead or standing dead pinons for firewood. There's a strong local sentiment against the commercial sellers who cut live pinons, especially the ones from TX and OK who take truckloads of it out and sell it back home as an aromatic wood. Grrrr...
precaud said:Carbon_Liberator said:
Yup, that's the whitey spelling
It's a bit of a magical tree in these parts. Pinon nuts are very tasty and bit of a delicacy. You may have had roasted pinon nuts with pesto sauce and not known it. The scent of burning pinon is very sweet and quite pleasant.
Considering their slow growth rate (200 years to produce a 1-foot diameter trunk), you can understand why I only use down and dead or standing dead pinons for firewood. There's a strong local sentiment against the commercial sellers who cut live pinons, especially the ones from TX and OK who take truckloads of it out and sell it back home as an aromatic wood. Grrrr...
My wife's family had a long term grazing lease on some land in southern Colorado, and the rancher also cut and sold all the pinon trees. The damn things probably went to Texas. I don't think that the lease language had been updated in more than 50 years, so the rancher essentially mined the area for wood. My brother in law has ownership now and I think he will change the lease back to just grazing only.
Chris Fallis said:
Yeah, alot of short-sighted thinking going on these days.
If your BIL is lucky, his grandchildren will see the pinons return to his land.
200 years for a 1-foot dia. trunk is about 1/16" per year.
I think the tectonic plates move faster than that.
mdocod
Burning Hunk
mdocod
Burning Hunk
Oops.. I didn't even notice it being an old thread... More importantly, I didn't have reason to believe the thread was that old as I recall finding it in the first page of threads of the wood shed. Any idea how that could have happened? Either way, I apologize for grave digging, I know it's bad forum etiquette and I am usually better about that.
gmule
Feeling the Heat
Mostly Lodge pole for me and if it was killed by the beetles it will be almost dry when I drop the tree. Even then it only needs to be split and stacked in the sun for a month or so and it will be ready to burn.
Yep, that's my firewood of choice, splits easy with almost no large knots, and I have found that if you only select the trees that have needles that have lost their orange color and thinned out somewhat, the wood will be dry enough to burn right away, with possibly only the lower 3ft or less of the trunk reading over 20% MC on the meter. The rest of the tree being less than 20% MC. Oh and it splits easy too, no big knots either like other types of pine.gmule said:
The biggest problem new wood burners run into is finding wood that properly seasoned, so it's really a great benefit haveing access to an abundent source of good wood that is already dry enough to burn properly.
gmule
Feeling the Heat
http://summitcountyvoice.com/2011/06/21/colorado-get-your-firewood-now/
Check out how cheap we can get wood. This is the area I go to cut since it is 30 minutes from my home.
I brought home 10 cords along with 1 or 2 that I cut from my lot.
My neighbors that use pellet stoves let me come and take their dead trees as well.
Check out how cheap we can get wood. This is the area I go to cut since it is 30 minutes from my home.
I brought home 10 cords along with 1 or 2 that I cut from my lot.
My neighbors that use pellet stoves let me come and take their dead trees as well.
What you gona do with all that wood mule? (just kidding)gmule said:
I'm afraid we got you beat on price, check out how much our permits are. http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/dos/dist_docs/firewood.htm
We have to fall our own trees though. I prefer that anyway, It's fun and I like to fall the trees so they overlap into one central area, it makes it easier to buck them up when they are lying on one another instead of bucking them all lying on the ground.
gmule
Feeling the Heat
Pretty hard to beat free. I like to fell my own trees as well. In the interest of safety and lots of people in the forest it is probably good that the trees have already been dropped. I sure wouldn't want to get one dropped on me from someone that did not know what they were doing.
Wasatch
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Here in Utah I mostly burn Englemann Spruce, Douglas Fir, juniper and pinyon. I like pinyon it is dense and burns hot.
Burn almost only Jack Pine in my gasifier, plus some aspen. Red Pine is OK too, White Pine too. Always well seasoned, two summers drying. But only burn any of these if not good for lumber, poles or posts; and almost only diseased or storm-damaged trees, or the dregs left over after cutting saw logs, or slabs after sawing lumber.
I'm new to this forum and was somewhat surprised to learn of the strong opposition to burning pine. In the mountain west, the abundance of Pinon Pine (Pinus edulis), Ponderosa Pine (Pinus ponderosa) and Lodgepole Pine (Pinus contorta) make them logical firewood choices. I've heard that Pinon is especially good to burn. (This is my first season burning in Colorado; I have a few cords of Lodgepole and some Aspen and Spruce from my property...)
Perhaps when we make blanket statements about generic "pine," we're not comparing apples to apples.
For me, it comes down to what is available in any given region. We have very few hardwoods in Southwest Colorado. Aspen, Spruce, Fir, and Pine are much more plentiful.
I guess I'll just have to monitor the burn rates and creosote output as the season progresses.
Perhaps when we make blanket statements about generic "pine," we're not comparing apples to apples.
For me, it comes down to what is available in any given region. We have very few hardwoods in Southwest Colorado. Aspen, Spruce, Fir, and Pine are much more plentiful.
I guess I'll just have to monitor the burn rates and creosote output as the season progresses.
Mt Ski Bum
Minister of Fire
tons of Lodgepole, some Ponderdosa, some Limber, & Whitebark Pine on rare occasion
Now if we want to expand into other conifers, I also use Subalpine Fir, Douglas Fir, & Engelmann Spruce; as well as Grand Fir or Colorado Blue Spruce on rare occasions
Now if we want to expand into other conifers, I also use Subalpine Fir, Douglas Fir, & Engelmann Spruce; as well as Grand Fir or Colorado Blue Spruce on rare occasions
Reading these posts makes me want some pine. i have cotton wood right now which i think is worse than pine but i love. flames up fast and gets the fire going in no time and seasons really fast. i actually am going to try and get a couple cords of it this winter.
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