Well said. . .the falcon cannot hear the falconer.gyrfalcon said:You want to heat a large house with wood only and also keep an esthetically apparently very fussy wife happy, you're going to have to spend bucks.
Well said. . .the falcon cannot hear the falconer.gyrfalcon said:You want to heat a large house with wood only and also keep an esthetically apparently very fussy wife happy, you're going to have to spend bucks.
Den said:. . .being up for a lil' DIY never hurts the budget.
Den said:Well said. . .the falcon cannot hear the falconer.gyrfalcon said:You want to heat a large house with wood only and also keep an esthetically apparently very fussy wife happy, you're going to have to spend bucks.
gyrfalcon said:Den said:Well said. . .the falcon cannot hear the falconer.gyrfalcon said:You want to heat a large house with wood only and also keep an esthetically apparently very fussy wife happy, you're going to have to spend bucks.
True dat. But falcons only ever listen because they've been hoodwinked into thinking they have to anyway. Once they get wise to the ruse, they're gone.
gyrfalcon said:firefighterjake said:HehHeh . . . I'm a bit slow . . . I didn't realize until today you were a gal . . . and you sound a lot like my wife . . . she doesn't want granite countertops . . . something about having to maintain them and bacterial growth.
Well, I don't say "ew!" a lot or load up the smiley-faces and multiple exclamation points and freak out over the prospect of a little ash floating out of the stove, so you're excused. I somehow managed to miss that whole part of girl training.
I'm just a person liike the rest of you, though vastly frustrated by my lack of experience with tools (now, that is part of girl training for sure, unfortunately) and deeply envious of the natural physical strength that allows you guys to wrangle your own firewood.
Guys, please, do your daughters a huge favor and bring them up to be comfortable with and knowledgeable about tools and to help with handyman projects around the house.
As for the granite countertops-- I've been mystified since they became so popular, almost mandatory for a "nice kitchen." Of all the things to spend a lot of extra cash on, they're on the very bottom of my list. Yes, they do look nice, but for a real working kitchen, give me high-quality formica any day at a fraction of the price. They're more resilient, require no maintenance at all other than a damp sponge, and nowadays can look only fractionally less handsome than the pricey granite. I freely admit, though, I'm in a tiny, tiny minority, so perhaps I'm peculiar.
emt1581 said:Holy hell Jake!! I can only imagine you are bored and sitting at the station waiting for a call. Otherwise how did you spend a few HOURS replying?? Either way thanks for the thoughts/info. Unfortunately I'm running late but tonight I'll be the one sitting at the station, so I'll reply then.
Thanks again!
-Emt1581
emt1581 said:firefighterjake said:gyrfalcon said:Here's one "sistah's" perspective on the stove versus insert issue. Before I had a stove, all I knew was fireplaces, which I loved. I felt cheated when I couldn't find a home that I liked with a fireplace and had to settle for a woodstove. After I lit the first fire in it, you could not have paid me a million bucks to have an insert instead. Woodstoves are magical in a way that inserts just aren't, nor are fireplaces. An insert just feels to me like a thick glass barrier between me and the fireplace. A handsome woodstove is pure joy just on its own terms, radiates heat on five sides and doesn't require a noisy blower to warm up the room. I'm a total, complete, abject convert.
But on the esthetics, there are woodstoves and there are woodstoves. Some are un-handsome and utilitarian "black boxes," but others are the handsomest piece of furniture in any room, even when they're not going.
Good perspective . . . and it's worth noting that Gyrfalcon has one of those very sharp looking soapstone stoves . . . I tell you EMT . . . you might want to show your wife some of these stoves.
Hearthstone and Harman were the only two I saw that had soap stone models.
-Emt1581
fossil said:BeGreen said:BrotherBart said:Harman does steel stoves. Like God intended stoves to be. With a few cast iron offerings thrown in for the elite.
That must be because St. Peter's front gate is made out of cast iron.
Oh no...that old one has long since been replaced by one made entirely of Unobtainium. %-P
emt1581 said:Den said:. . .being up for a lil' DIY never hurts the budget.
Why not...I've laid sidewalks, built rooms, and I dabble in electrical/plumbing....why not hearth building...
-Emt1581
BeGreen said:Sounds like an obsession to me. You may need to see a therapist.
emt1581 said:BeGreen said:Sounds like an obsession to me. You may need to see a therapist.
That'll be a short trip...
But you're right. Hence why my first thread has 200 replies in a few days time. I research and analyze the crap out of anything I buy. The more expensive, the more I do it. I'm not cheap. I just don't like to make expensive mistakes.
So what do you think as far as my buy now build later plan? How about that tax credit?
Thanks!
-Emt1581
gyrfalcon said:As I understand it, the tax credit is a total of $1,500 per filer, but you should read the post about it at the top of the first page of the Hearth Room forum and check with your tax accountant.
emt1581 said:gyrfalcon said:As I understand it, the tax credit is a total of $1,500 per filer, but you should read the post about it at the top of the first page of the Hearth Room forum and check with your tax accountant.
Seems like the gubmint reeeallly doesn't want to give out more than $1500 per household on this deal. So if we buy the stove up front and don't get it installed, we can either get a really nice one and take the entire $1500 credit or we can be a nice one and get around $750-$1000 out of the deal. Either way we'd lose the credit's portion of the installation fees.
-Emt1581
gyrfalcon said:emt1581 said:gyrfalcon said:As I understand it, the tax credit is a total of $1,500 per filer, but you should read the post about it at the top of the first page of the Hearth Room forum and check with your tax accountant.
Seems like the gubmint reeeallly doesn't want to give out more than $1500 per household on this deal. So if we buy the stove up front and don't get it installed, we can either get a really nice one and take the entire $1500 credit or we can be a nice one and get around $750-$1000 out of the deal. Either way we'd lose the credit's portion of the installation fees.
-Emt1581
Just a suggestion? Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Getting "only* $750 bucks back on your purchase is nothing to sneeze at.
emt1581 said:gyrfalcon said:emt1581 said:gyrfalcon said:As I understand it, the tax credit is a total of $1,500 per filer, but you should read the post about it at the top of the first page of the Hearth Room forum and check with your tax accountant.
Seems like the gubmint reeeallly doesn't want to give out more than $1500 per household on this deal. So if we buy the stove up front and don't get it installed, we can either get a really nice one and take the entire $1500 credit or we can be a nice one and get around $750-$1000 out of the deal. Either way we'd lose the credit's portion of the installation fees.
-Emt1581
Just a suggestion? Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Getting "only* $750 bucks back on your purchase is nothing to sneeze at.
I don't want to turn this political but I'll be damned if I'll call this gov. a "gift horse". Say that when Bush's tax cuts expire and your taxes go through the roof! Think the gov. will be grateful for all the extra money it's forcing you to pay for the same (SNAFU'd) services?
-Emt1581
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