Anyone ever see this from a stainless steel flu liner?
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SmokeyTheBear said:
Older house (1965), but there had never been a fire in that fireplace before so nothing in the chimney. It was in a rec room that's in the basement that had never been fully finished until I did it when I moved in.
I'm suspecting that perhaps the installer used either a cheaper liner or something like that. I found my receipt and called, but haven't been able to get in touch with him. I'm going back to the dealer I bought the stove from who recommended the installer to see if they have any input. My luck the installer went out of business.
Definitely inspect your liners though
These were on the backside where I couldn't easily see and only discovered them when I cut the piece off. Glad I looked closer.
Likely some of that piddle poor stuff from across one of the great ponds.
Was the damage all below the block off plate?
Was the damage all below the block off plate?
SmokeyTheBear said:
That's what I'm thinking. All the damage was from the stove up about 12 feet. The block off plate was still sealed at the top of the flu so I didn't have any water leakage. I'm at a loss.
Was able to get in touch with the installer and they are going to check into the warranty but apparently they say it's only covered if you're having it cleaned professionally every year and have the receipts for it. So I'm guessing that since I clean it myself that I'm going to be SOL on the warranty.
goathead said:
Are you able to check and see if it's Pellet Vent through markings on the liner or the end pieces?
This is where they get ya.
"4) The Forever Flexâ„¢ lining system must be cleaned and inspected on an annual basis by an experienced chimney professional (i.e., at intervals of no more than 18 months each, commencing from the date of purchase), who must fill out and date the appropriate section on this warranty card upon completion of such yearly maintenance. Receipts verifying the annual maintenance was performed must also be retained."
I have always said that liner warranties aren't worth the paper they are printed on.
"4) The Forever Flexâ„¢ lining system must be cleaned and inspected on an annual basis by an experienced chimney professional (i.e., at intervals of no more than 18 months each, commencing from the date of purchase), who must fill out and date the appropriate section on this warranty card upon completion of such yearly maintenance. Receipts verifying the annual maintenance was performed must also be retained."
I have always said that liner warranties aren't worth the paper they are printed on.
BrotherBart said:
Brother B:
This is a common trick with warranties in many businesses. The business model is "bury the maintenance requirements in the fine print such that the customer can never collect."
I had this on a car muffler system one time --- the fine print, which I never read, said one of their 'certified muffler shops' had to inspect the exhaust system once every year! Yeah, like who schedules an appointment annually just for a muffler inspection? Isn't that part of what the state0-safety inspection is for?
As I recall, I could buy the exhaust system with a standard 1 year warranty for some $300 - or get the extended lifetime job for another $100. Same muffler, just a price different. Since the truck was only a couple of years old (I had damaged the exhaust doing something I shouldn't have been doing) I opted for the ~$100 lifetime warranty!
I bet the franchiser was thinking "There's one born every minute ..."
Now, I never buy that extended warranty crap ...
RonB
Yup, warranty was denied of course. So, purchased another liner (not from them) and will install it this weekend.
wow, thats the first time i've seen something like that on a liner....the power of carbonic acid (and other)..sure it wasn't aluminum? There are literally hundreds of types of steel, some 60% of them didn't even exist a few decades ago....yeah for materials engineering. My fav is Lustra....super high chrome content, its on the Chrysler Building, all the shiny bits, stuff is so durable, they've only had to clean the building like 2-3 times since construction.
Delta-T said:
Fairly certain it was stainless. Seemed comparable to the other one I had which was 316 stainless. Don't know of a sure-fire way to tell. The invoice said it was stainless at the time it was installed...doesn't mean that's what was put in of course. Re-doing it myself so I KNOW what's going in there. I'll also be checking it over a lot more carefully during my cleaning that's for sure.
SmokeyTheBear said:
I actually went with a 316Ti smooth wall liner that is.013 thick opposed to .005.
SmokeyTheBear said:
I got a 4" x 25' for $299. The standard .005 was $259 so I figured for the extra $40 it would be worth upgrading.
goathead said:
Who makes it? I think it's two ply meaning two .006 tubes with the inside being smooth.
I believe it was a FireFlex. Seemed to be real high quality when I installed it and yes when I cut it, it was 2-ply with the smooth wall.
BrotherBart said:
According to Olympia Forever Flex is 316Ti
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This is a little scary. Does anybody ever remove and inspect? If not there could be a lot of this going on without anybody knowing it.
Some facts here
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mhrischuk said:
call Olympia before you assume that they are going to reneg. They are a very easy company to deal with.
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