Another lame Winter

[Backwoods Savage]

Nothing like ground truth.
But according to this you should have had (at the time) 1.2" with a December total of 2.5". (It is for Lincoln IL I believe. Is that near you?)
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/getclimate.php?wfo=ilx

I don't know where Dennis is located in MI.

Most of the places I seem to care about are pretty accurately depicted. The kids in East Texas had a white Christmas. Very rare for them.

NOAA (and Environment Canada) data are often wrong.

BTW, the Northern Hemisphere snow cover record for December is not North America. Most of the cold is on the other side of our hemisphere (makes sense). It is also straight from the NSIDC, not media released. Here is image of the pixels:

Huh....there does appear to be a couple blank spots right over Michigan. Could be true!

We're between Lansing and Saginaw; closer to Saginaw. If you find the junction of US-127 and M-57, we're not far from there. You could say we do have some snow here right now but you have to look long and hard for it.

On the other hand, you say we should have had 1.2" with a December total of 2.5" but that is certainly not the case. But strangely, if one went, say 40 miles east they had snow. A friend lives about 60 miles east and at Christmas time they got 6" of snow. We got a dusting. A few days later they got 4" and we got another dusting. When he came for a visit, he could hardly believe the difference. "Where's your snow?" he asked.

 

[granpajohn]

. A friend... "Where's your snow?" he asked.

Well now you can show him that pixel map with the 2 blank spots right over your farm; scientifically proving that you have a "Backwoods Savage Snow Repellant Dome". Don't feel bad though; we have one in Annapolis too. However, I would think northerners would want such a thing. In fact, offer to sell shares in it.

Looking at the snow analysis for today, I see about half of MI is melted away, but West TX; (and I mean south of New Mexico), is supposed to have around 6 inches. (don't know if I believe it (broken link removed) )
Crazy. In fact, this IS a Lame Winter!


Well let's see here.....Saginaw seems to have reported 7.4" for all of December; depth never really exceeded 3" per the Saginaw station:
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/getclimate.php?wfo=dtx

You're right.....Lame.

 

[rideau]

15 years ago sucked, we were house bound for a week.
(broken link removed to http://www.wwnytv.com/news/local/It-Was-15-Years-Ago-Today-186051392.html)

Was that the year schools in Westchester NY were closed essentially every day in January?The ice was unreal.

EDIT: Sorry, I feel like an idiot. How could I forget, even for a moment, that 98 was the cie storm. We were without power for 28 days.

I think the ice may have been Jan 97?

 

[thewoodlands]

Was that the year schools in Westchester NY were closed essentially every ay i January The ice was unreal.

Just a guess rideau, I think so. No rain here at the moment, 36 out.

 

[rideau]

Drove through a lot of NYS yesterday...from the Thousand Islands to Lower Westchester. Was amazed to see the grass showing through between the border and Syracuse. Don't think I have ever seen that little snow in that area. Was also shocked (continue to be shocked) by the water levels in the Mohawk.

 

[thewoodlands]

Drove through a lot of NYS yesterday...from the Thousand Islands to Lower Westchester. Was amazed to see the grass showing through between the border and Syracuse. Don't think I have ever seen that little snow in that area. Was also shocked (continue to be shocked) by the water levels in the Mohawk.

I think the St.Lawrence River is way down too, even if we have a chit load of snow the rest of the winter it won't make up for last winter & summer.

 

[granpajohn]

I think the St.Lawrence River is way down too, even if we have a chit load of snow the rest of the winter it won't make up for last winter & summer.

I think the St. Lawrence flow is controlled. (Read the last paragraph):

http://www.lre.usace.army.mil/greatlakes/hh/outflows/discharge_measurements/st._lawrence_river/

That is not to say precipitation has no effect. But still, I'm not so sure that the river level is a very good gauge of rainfall since 1960.

 

[thewoodlands]

I think the St. Lawrence flow is controlled. (Read the last paragraph):

http://www.lre.usace.army.mil/greatlakes/hh/outflows/discharge_measurements/st._lawrence_river/

That is not to say precipitation has no effect. But still, I'm not so sure that the river level is a very good gauge of rainfall since 1960.

Sure is controlled, but you can't control what you don't have.

 

[rideau]

And I know there has been concern about the continued navigatability of the St. Lawrence, I think in the area near Brockville, but I may be wrong about the location. water levels have been vry low some recent years.

 

[midwestcoast]

Another sign of Lame Winter. Those are daffodils coming up here in the Chicago area today!
Last year they bloomed on March 12'th. I'll never forget 'cause
It was the day my daughter was born.
Extra points to the first one with a correct wood ID on the mulch chips.

 

[rideau]

Another sign of Lame Winter. Those are daffodils coming up here in the Chicago area today!
Last year they bloomed on March 12'th. I'll never forget 'cause
It was the day my daughter was born.
Extra points to the first one with a correct wood ID on the mulch chips. View attachment 89198 View attachment 89198

Daffodils in January in Chicago! Amazing. Now the snow will come and cover them, and they'll slow down for a bit. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see them in bloom in March again. Cedar?

 

[midwestcoast]

Cedar?

Nope.

 

[jharkin]

58F today. The 8in of snow we got after new years is all gone.

We were supposed to get that arctic blast soon but now the weekend temps are expected only tom dip to the 30s

 

[bubbasdad]

And I know there has been concern about the continued navigatability of the St. Lawrence, I think in the area near Brockville, but I may be wrong about the location. water levels have been vry low some recent years.

Lake levels in the Great Lakes are down a couple of feet, and getting worse. Smaller lakes here have a lot of docks sitting in mud, can't use the docks. Last year a lot of snow plow guys went broke when they only plowed 4 times. Looks like it will be another poor snow year.

 

[Badfish740]

I don't know about you guys, but at this point I would forgo the snow for a few weeks of sub 20 degree temps during the day. Even without a flake of snow on the ground I love being out stacking, splitting, etc...when the air has a nice bite to it, the ground is as hard as granite, and everything is nice and still. With the weather the way it's been we have to keep a pile of old towels by the back door because if the dog so much as steps off the back porch to pee he brings in a ton of mud If I had my way the ground would stay frozen until April

 

[ColdNH]

Move north, cold with plenty of snow.

Really? i moved north from CT to NH in search of snow and today january 15th all i see is grass out the window.

 

[Seasoned Oak]

I always wanted to move south.Now i can stay put as the warm air has come to me. I do like a good blizzard now and then.

 

[Pallet Pete]

This weekend is going to get very cold I can't wait either! We love winter here well at least when we ha e a winter anyway.

Pete

 

[Pallet Pete]

Actually looks like we will get a real feel below 0 for a bit

 

[thewoodlands]

Actually looks like we will get a real feel below 0 for a bit

They have a minus 10 for Monday, that means we should hit -15 or -18. We have some 3 almost 4 year old Beech all set.

 

[pen]

Here's the map (if it shows up) for my area tonight. I'm just south of Binghamton, looking like 3-6 here. Might be a slick ride to work tomorrow.

(broken image removed)

 

[thewoodlands]

I just checked the TWC online for the weather forecast next week, they are calling for -23 on Tuesday. With the loss of our snow last week it might cause some water main breaks.

The beech,sugar maple and ironwood will be the wood for that day.

 

[thewoodlands]

Last night TWC online had - 23 for Tuesday, this morning the have - 7, we'll take the warmer weather!

 

[Dune]

Here's the map (if it shows up) for my area tonight. I'm just south of Binghamton, looking like 3-6 here. Might be a slick ride to work tomorrow.

(broken image removed)

Back when I followed the Dead around ( pre-'85) I had a friend from Oneonta.

 

[Badfish740]

18 this morning in NJ! Finally! We might get close to single digits at night this week.