A wood user’s rejoice!

[Ben321]

Well what i meant was the more wood i add to the fire the longer this thing pumps out hot air but the fan is so pwerful that my living room gets hot in minutes and i gotta turn down the damper to put the fire on chill for a bit. When i do that the box still collects heat and kicks on but not as frequently and for not as long. And ya i was concerned about overheating too but stove pipe heat exchangers should be used only when plugged in anyhow right?. The instruction guide says to not use the woodstove unless Flue-master is plugged in.

Personally, i've only had this thing one season but as far as i could tell theres not enought soot in there to warrant cleaning.

 

[nocdpc]

Seems too good to be true...

 

[Backwoods Savage]

Ben, assuming this is on the up and up, you might try a small fan. But instead of trying to move the heat, move the cool. That is, set the fan in a hallway or room that is cool and blow that cool air into the warm room. This little trick will do much more for keeping the rooms a closer temperature to the room where the stove is. It sounds completely backwards, but it works and a little fan on low would not make that noise you speak of.

As for the wood needs. We installed a Woodstock Fireview soapstone stove 2 years ago. This is our only source of heat. We have cut our fuel needs in half and we are much warmer in the house than we've ever been. We don't have the noise and we don't have a creosote problem. In fact, we have not cleaned the chimney since installing this stove.

 

[Shari]

And here I thought Pook had another alias going. :lol:

"Pook" has morphed into "Ghettontheball"; see post #26. :lol:

Shari

 

[jkupcha]

Hey Ben
You never answered the question about your address being same as the website address?

 

[dougand3]

Ya'll are being too rough on Ben. He stated "I certainly am not selling anything"

Oh wait, I forgot....the gizmos sell themselves. Ben just collects the money for them.

Ben, you can clear this up. Answer this question truthfully and without reservation.
"Do you, any of your family or associates receive compensation from the sale of these heat exchangers?"

 

[precaud]

Better yet, why doesn't someone just delete the entire thread and be done with it?

 

[Ben321]

To mr. backwoods, i see that ur up in michigan? Folks say Woodstock Soapstones are a good buy, and they're attractive units aswell. In fact I have friends that lived up in Lanse that have one and they love it. Heat is evenly distributed, no real hotspots. Also the wife bought a couple extra small room fans that we use to do just what yer speaking of. Good tip.

Also guys (& gals), to be perfectly clear, me, my family, friends, neighbors, and pet tortoises are in no way affiliated with nor are selling, distributing or profiting in anyway from the product i mentioned in this post (or any other forum i've posted stuff about new products I find). I found it to be an exceptional addition to my home and i just thought maybe others could benefit from it too, thats all. And to answer the gentlemans question above, my address is not the same as their website. Why do you think because i live in the same state as that company that we have the same address? Fact is, I live here about 15 minutes outside of estes park and I met the sales rep, at a home depot in fort collins, his name is mike i think. I'll have to get his card from my neighbor whom i gave it to some time ago. In fact it was her husband actually that was in the market for a new stove and when he saw my setup and took interest in it and consequently thats why i mentioned it on the forum here. They dont have the internet at their house and asked if i'd poke around and see if anybody else has had any experience with product or company. I did speak to an ex co-worker of mine, he lives in washington state, whos heard of the company and has seen this reclaimer in homes up there. He said he's never seen one in action but they seemed to like 'em. All i know is that i can put one of these 'wax log' type fake logs in my little box wood stove and it'll heat the house all night long.

 

[Creek-Chub]

I call crap. Anyone NOT selling this would have gotten pissed off and left quite a while ago. Who is going to get called out over and over again, and still stick around to try and help everyone else see the light? Not many.

 

[Ben321]

Well, mr. creek, not everybody thinks like you. Posting on forums is for entertainment or information purposes and I dont think one has to get upset just cuz people have questions or criticisms.

I paid 500 bucks for it with the mail in rebate. Not a bad price considering how much they charge for one of these new 'epa stoves'. Besides, i no longer have to wait hours for my house to heat up.

 

[n3pro]

I paid 500 bucks for it with the mail in rebate. Not a bad price considering how much they charge for one of these new 'epa stoves'. Besides, i no longer have to wait hours for my house to heat up.

$500! With a mail in rebate! You call that a deal, I got $500 a cord "super clean" wood I'll sell you, do the same thing.

 

[Todd]

Where's the web site? Sounds like a more powerful Magic Heat to me. I can see how it would help with an old non air tight pot belly stove since they throw over 50% of their heat up the flue, but an EPA stove is a different animal and any draft robbing device will turn it into a creosote factory.

 

[BrotherBart]

Heck if I can heat this joint with a $149 box stove and one Duraflame all night, count me in.

 

[Ben321]

Yah n3pro, but can you heat your house in 30 minutes from first match light, with a little old plain cast iron wood stove, all winter long on a chord 'n half maybe two, of wood? Heck, i paid better part of $500 on two magic heats so far that havent lasted 10 years. The flue-master has a 10year warranty just by itself AND it cranks out heat you couldnt get with a row of magic heats lined up. shoooooot.

 

[Ben321]

Brotherbart, can u imagine actually getting heat out of a wax log? Crazy huh!

 

[North of 60]

This has been nothing but the bestes thread to learn from all year. My stove is now up for sale. With the money I get back from my over expensive non-smoking low emissions EPA stove, Iam gonna revert back to an old barrel stove kit like the true pioneers of the north did and smoke out my neighbour's. Use the extra money to buy a couple of grand $ worth of wax logs and collect the creosote out of this perpetual heat reclaim gizzmo, then convert it in to bio diesel to run in my truck. It should produce all the extra fuel I need.
Wonder if I should put a 1" or a 2" tapping with a threaded ball valve on my chimney to collect the creosote to burn in da truck.
Im really exited about this one. The things one can learn.

 

[North of 60]

OH ya, one more question. Before I do the big switch, will the 10 year warranty be void if I burn pine?
N of 60

 

[madrone]

Wow! It turned your pot-belly stove into a box stove!

 

[Nyquil Junkie]

I wanna see the insides of one of those things just out of perverse curiosity.

 

[North of 60]

I wanna see the insides of one of those things just out of perverse curiosity.

(Caution) "Parts of this product may be radioactive. Any disassemble may cause dangerous exposure."
I am pretty sure this is where the super-heating takes place.

 

[Ratman]

I'm a total newbie compared to most of you, especially the folks who are installers or shop owners so don't laugh too hard. I'm sensitive.

I have seen a few links to stories / pics (most from this site) of stove fires and at least to of them have had these magic flue pipe heat reclaimers on them.
The questions is do these devices in any way increase your chances of a fire?
If so and if rather substantialy, why would any person of sound mine approve these devices for sale and install?

Do I have this all wrong?

 

[Shari]

I'm a total newbie compared to most of you, especially the folks who are installers or shop owners so don't laugh too hard. I'm sensitive.

I have seen a few links to stories / pics (most from this site) of stove fires and at least to of them have had these magic flue pipe heat reclaimers on them.
The questions is do these devices in any way increase your chances of a fire?

Yes

If so and if rather substantialy, why would any person of sound mine approve these devices for sale and install?

Because they have not received their education here at this forum.

Do I have this all wrong?

Nope


Shari

 

[begreen]

Well, mr. creek, not everybody thinks like you. Posting on forums is for entertainment or information purposes and I dont think one has to get upset just cuz people have questions or criticisms.

I paid 500 bucks for it with the mail in rebate. Not a bad price considering how much they charge for one of these new 'epa stoves'. Besides, i no longer have to wait hours for my house to heat up.

Yikes! On sale, a new EPA stove from Home Depot was under $700 and there is a real Fed Credit on that stove of 30%. That brings it to less than a silly gizmo that can't be used in a power outage. The new EPA stove would really save you fuel as well as reduce pollution. Heck, this thing is selling for 3-4x higher than existing heat reclaimers. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it appears you have been taken.

 

[Shari]

education & indoctrination differ. fluegas needs a certain temp to exhaust safely & any higher temp is a waste of heat

Ghettontheball (or Poooooooooooook, or whatever name you are now going by),

.......and if those flue gases are lowered then creosote build up is the result.

Stove manufactures clearly state what type of installations meet their approval. Their chimney specs have been tested and designed to provide the consumer the optimum use of their product. Any variation to their approved installations could cause the homeowner to fail a city inspection and/or financial loss in a fire claim.

In another post by you located here (post #3): https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/41548/ You stated any "change would void UL certification".

So, Ghettontheball, you endorse the public to void their stove UL certification by installing one of these creosote traps?

Have a nice day.

Shari

 

[North of 60]

education & indoctrination differ. fluegas needs a certain temp to exhaust safely & any higher temp is a waste of heat

Ghettontheball (or Poooooooooooook, or whatever name you are now going by),

.......and if those flue gases are lowered then creosote build up is the result.

Stove manufactures clearly state what type of installations meet their approval. Their chimney specs have been tested and designed to provide the consumer the optimum use of their product. Any variation to their approved installations could cause the homeowner to fail a city inspection and/or financial loss in a fire claim.

In another post by you located here (post #3): https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/41548/ You stated any "change would void UL certification".

So, Ghettontheball, you endorse the public to void their stove UL certification by installing one of these creosote traps?

Have a nice day.

Shari

both stove & ma are ul listed but dunno how the combo would result
u persist on semantics instead of science & did not adress my statement about heatloss. ever heard of FLA BUNGALOW SYNDROME?
MY SAWDUST BURNS CLEAN WITH MH
CLEAN BURNING WOODSTOVES HERE I HAVE READ PRODUCE LESS CHIMNI DEPOSITS THAN ME. SO I WONDER IF MH MIGHT NOT WORK AS A DRAFT CONTROL INSTEAD OF A BAROMETRIC OR MANUAL DAMPER. I ALSO MADE THE POINT THAT A FORGOTTEN STOVE LEFT WIDE OPEN WOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY DAMPERED BY THE MH WHICH IS IN FACT WHAT THE MH DOES ON MY SAWDUST BURNER.

Pooker we are all not burning sawdust with force draft. Just you.