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[johnnywarm]

On the hearth heat question: My heritage also has an ash pan assembly that is always empty but when there is little or no ash in the firebox, like at the beginning of the season, the heat of the fire makes the hearth pretty warm with a good fire above. I can hold my hand there but just barely. Now when there is a couple of inches of ash on the floor of the firebox the fire burns much better, easier to start and coals better, plus, the hearth stays much cooler. If you allow a couple of inches of ash to accumulate I think you will find cooler hearth temps and a happier burning experience.

Highbeam Do you know why this accrues???why does the fire burn better with a good bed of coals??

 

[Highbeam]

I believe that the layer of ash acts as an insulative layer to prevent heat transfer just as your winter coat keeps your body warm when you're outside in the winter. This resistance to heat transfer keeps the fire hotter and the hearth cooler. The ash also limits the amount of air that can make it to the coals which slows their combustion and allows for a longer, albeit cooler, burn time.

The bed of red coals represents a whole lot of btus that are able to raise the temperature of fresh wood to the combustion point very quickly. The large amount of heat rising from the bed of coals provides a strong draft to help suck fresh air into the firebox which supports combustion of that fresh wood load.

 

[wellbuilt home]

Fire walker I think you are OK with the hearth my cat was sleeping under my EQ last night . He was smoking a bit but no flames . I know what you are saying about the height of the fire box . The old H1 i used could be filled to the top . I have not really stuffed the stove because my wife wont let me lite it yet . ( I cooked her out of the house a few weeks ago) Ive been burning old pine beams 8"x 10" x 24" and i can get 4 of them in the stove . I like 24" logs but mite try some 16" logs next year because it easier to split .

 

[johnnywarm]

I believe that the layer of ash acts as an insulative layer to prevent heat transfer just as your winter coat keeps your body warm when you're outside in the winter. This resistance to heat transfer keeps the fire hotter and the hearth cooler. The ash also limits the amount of air that can make it to the coals which slows their combustion and allows for a longer, albeit cooler, burn time.

The bed of red coals represents a whole lot of btus that are able to raise the temperature of fresh wood to the combustion point very quickly. The large amount of heat rising from the bed of coals provides a strong draft to help suck fresh air into the firebox which supports combustion of that fresh wood load.

Thank You

 

[savageactor7]

FireWalker we started splitting smaller so we could stuff the firebox fuller without hitting the tubes on top of the QF4300. Seems to be working out well cause you can reg the primary air so the stove burns slow as opposed to smoldering slow. I like to on the hot side 450-500 with the least amt of primary as possible.

btw our hearth deck is just warm...the stove has firebrick on the bottom.

 

[FireWalker]

Tonight we are going down into the 20's, I may actually have to move this thing off it's low setting. :smirk:

I was wrong, with temps. in the mid 20's and a full load of wood, the lowest setting was almost too much! Amazing to watch this thing burn on low, just one small (1" around) vertical column of fire from the wood/coal bed just inside the glass feeding a mass of floating blue/orange flames.

She asks "is it supposed to do that?" Yea baby! "That's cool". I wanted to show her the burn tubes but I let it go. ;-)

I also experimented with my wood load. At 6:00 pm last evening, I raked coals forward and set 3 medium/large locust splits neatly in the back (made sure I got a 2 high stack against back wall) and let her rip for an hour. Then I added 4 smaller splits/rounds that filled the front of the box and set air to low. At 11:00 pm there was room for 2 medium splits, the wood at the back of the box was still intact! At 7:00 am in the back of the box was a nice pile of coals, all ready to begin again. It was 72 in the house this morning, perfect. I am going to like this stove. :cheese:

 

[FireWalker]

FireWalker we started splitting smaller so we could stuff the firebox fuller without hitting the tubes on top of the QF4300. Seems to be working out well cause you can reg the primary air so the stove burns slow as opposed to smoldering slow. I like to on the hot side 450-500 with the least amt of primary as possible.

btw our hearth deck is just warm...the stove has firebrick on the bottom.

Big splits last longer, small splits burn hotter and faster.

 

[frwinks]

are any of the equinox owners run theirs with the optional heat shield? We're considering replacing our HII with THE beast, but looking at the unshielded specs it would put the stove too far out. With the rear shield and double wall pipe we could use the existing hearth. Does anyone have any pics of their installed equinox? Actually shielded or not, lets just see some of these monsters :coolsmile:

 

[struggle]

It seems no one here is overly concerned regarding the somewhat hot surface temps. I'm getting on the tile under my stove?????????????????? At what temp does skin say no way, I'm burning??? 150??? more, Less???? I ask this knowing that the setting I'm currently using are a bit lower than I expect to be using in 60 days.

Our Mansfield sits on tile on a cement floor and it can get so hot around the stove that you cannot walk on the tile. So I would be concerned about it being tile over a wood decking surface. Have you checked the temp with a IR gun. When we run 24/7 one cannot stand on the floor close to the stove. We have met all the distance requirements for the stove and it backs to a non-combustible wall but I still put the rear heat shield on as I figured it would mean less heat transfer into the brick on block wall.

It will be a while before we go 24/7 but when we do I might get my neighbors IR gun and check the temp on the tile. When it gets hot we put a fan on the floor in that area and it cool fast.

 

[FireWalker]

I have found a half full ash pan helps with the hot floor a lot. Still waiting on cold weather but have already figured a small fan behind the stove will be the easy fix. I'm also going to try using my stovetop thermometer under the stove and get a rough idea how hot is hot. I expect the temp under the stove to be well under 200 degrees which will allow me to stop worring about this.

 

[Ktm640]

Just completed the installation of our stove. Here is a picture of it with a Heat Shield. You can see the top of it just above the stone on top of the stove. The shield is about 4 inches from the back of the stove. In this picture the shield is right against the stone on the wall. The wall was constructed to be breathable.

It has steel studs laid on their side (1.5 inches), .5 inch Durock on top of that, metal lathe with .5 inch of mortar for a scratch coat, and then the stone veneer (2-3 inches thick).

Total clearance from the back of stove to combustible material is ~9.5 inches. The min for the EQ with heatshield and doublewall pipe is 8in. to combustible material.

Tonight I'll have my first break in fire. Hope to have it roaring this weekend.

 

[frwinks]

thanks for the pic wow, the stove look tiny... u sure it's the equinox? the one I looked @ would fit a small adult... hahahaha

here's what we're trying to make the equinox work with.... with the heat shield and dw pipe we'll be OK. Could you do me a huge fav. and snap a closeup sideways pic? thanks in advance ;-)

 

[gpcollen1]

That is why I cut some wood to 24". Especially in the dead of winter, having the firebox full of wood is important. More wood = more heat for a long burn.

 

[pumiglk]

Frwinks,

I had this handy. This is mine which has the heatshield and blower installed. The shiled is required for the blower, clearances weren't the issue. You can just make the shield out peeking over the top. I general pretty unobtrusive. It can alos vent out the top, which might be helpful in your case. Does the dutchwest take 8'' inch pipe - the EQ does.

 

[frwinks]

hey, thanks for the pic...always nice to see pics :coolgrin:
I don't know about the dutchwest stoves.. Mine is a Heartstone II with a 6" pipe

 

[Rich L]

Firewalker let me tell you man I'm enjoying these chronicles better than my favorite sci-fi novel.Keep em coming.My Woodstock Fireview came with a heat shield that mounts under the stove.This keeps the floor from overheating.Does the Equinox come with one?

 

[FireWalker]

No heat shield with the Eq. standard or optional. I'm more comfortable now that I have a system..... Burn wood, shake or shovel ash thru grate, burn more wood, empty ash pan, shake ashes, burn more wood. Never leave ash pan empty and no removal of ash pan full of hot coals as the grate is closed during operation.

I hear nice things about the Woodstock stoves. They sure are purdy.............

 

[Rich L]

No heat shield with the Eq. standard or optional. I'm more comfortable now that I have a system..... Burn wood, shake or shovel ash thru grate, burn more wood, empty ash pan, shake ashes, burn more wood. Never leave ash pan empty and no removal of ash pan full of hot coals as the grate is closed during operation.

I hear nice things about the Woodstock stoves. They sure are purdy.............

Yes the Fireview is a beautiful stove with good overnight burn.However it can't compare with the Equinox.My Mansfield which is smaller than the Equinox is a more powerful heater than my Fireview and it to is larger than the Fireview.It all balances out,though what your working with is new territory so keep us inform.Bring on the cold weather !

 

[wellbuilt home]

Hi fire walker , I am thinking that we mite have to burn our wood N/S in the stove to really fill the fire box . Im having a problem filling the new EQ with long 26" splits . I dont think i could really get the Fire box full E&W;. I am liking the soap stone it stays hot all day in the sholder season . We have not had cold weather yet, The low this year was 28o so far. The EQ really cooks .