Alpine1
Feeling the Heat
I always load N/S as most here do. Playing Tetris it’s easier that way
2019-20 Blaze King Performance Thread Part 1 (Everything BK)
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OK, this must be the 2020 version..
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My observation so far
For long burns, overnight or really cold days I prefer n/s, otherwise e/w gives me a more complete burn. Nothing left on sides
Went to replace a leaking door gasket on my Princess with a 7/8ths gasket in which it calls for...the door would not come even close to closing...anyone else experience this? I did not stretch the gasket as I thought you were not supposed to do that? Is that my problem? Thanks
Nope....when I called BK today I was told any 7/8 gasket would work...where I bought it they carry BK...if it was a house brand or BK I dont know.
I’m curious who at BK told you this? High density, low density? There’s a lot of people making gasket, some of the “same” size are noticeably different in size.
There used to be an amazing woman there that handled warranty calls. Unfortunately she left... raising her family I guess. She knew her stuff!
BKVP
Minister of Fire
North South...better air flow, much wood can be loaded, less likely to roll into glass door.
BKVP
Minister of Fire
I addressed this topic with the office staff. Our gaskets are definitely different than off the shelf materials. Apologies for the confusion.
That is good to know. Our BKs only accepted 7/8 BK gasket. Will not accept any aftermarket 7/8 gaskets. Correct.
For those of us that don't know, how could we identify a 7/8 BK gasket from some other off the shelf? If we go to the dealer and they can say it is a BK gasket but it may not be,
BKVP
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Hi Everybody,
just pulled the trigger on a Chinook 30. Looking forward to have it installed.
A quick question: when the thermostat is on "low" and the stove is cold, does that shut off airflow into the stove completely? As you are well aware, a chimney always has a draft, even when cold, and I don't want it to draw air out of the house when it's not in use. Our "Kachelofen-style" stove had a flap in the loading door with which you adjusted airflow into the stove or just shut it off completely by closing that flap.
Thanks!
just pulled the trigger on a Chinook 30. Looking forward to have it installed.
A quick question: when the thermostat is on "low" and the stove is cold, does that shut off airflow into the stove completely? As you are well aware, a chimney always has a draft, even when cold, and I don't want it to draw air out of the house when it's not in use. Our "Kachelofen-style" stove had a flap in the loading door with which you adjusted airflow into the stove or just shut it off completely by closing that flap.
Thanks!
Alpine1
Feeling the Heat
With the door closed and the thermostat on low I’m pretty sure heat loss trough the stove is negligible if not completely non existent. Heat loss from windows, doors, walls etc is surely more important.
Maybe, although heat transfer by convection (draft) is usually orders of magnitude higher than heat transfer through radiation (walls/windows, given they are airtight).
But you're probably right that it won't matter much. I have not found internal drawings of the firebox yet which could show how the airflow is regulated. I suppose there is some kind of flap in a pipe that is moved by the thermostat or similar.
But you're probably right that it won't matter much. I have not found internal drawings of the firebox yet which could show how the airflow is regulated. I suppose there is some kind of flap in a pipe that is moved by the thermostat or similar.
So on full low stat setting the intake butterfly is closed. You can hear it clack closed. However, there is the hole. Even if it's not on the flapper itself like my princess there is another hole somewhere else that provides the minimum air for some sort of a safe/clean burn required by the EPA even though I think it is silly small opening since most of us are unable to fully close the thermostat without stalling the cat.
If you use the proper outside air connection then your stove is not burning inside air at all. This is one of the benefits of the outside air connection. My stove's combustion air is drawn from the vented, unheated, crawlspace under my home. Works great!
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If the cat stalls when the butterfly is fully closed, it can't be much.
And an outside air connection is not possible. The stove is in the middle of the home with the concrete slab underneath, and the only way to draw outside air would be from the attic, which would require the line to reach upward towards the ceiling. And that is not permitted, I believe.
If the cat stalls when the butterfly is fully closed, it can't be much.
And an outside air connection is not possible. The stove is in the middle of the home with the concrete slab underneath, and the only way to draw outside air would be from the attic, which would require the line to reach upward towards the ceiling. And that is not permitted, I believe.
Ashful
Minister of Fire
And you call me the heretic?!?
Truthfully, having some pine on hand would be great, if I had time to waste, and ever ran out of oak, ash, and hickory. So far, that hasn’t happened.
A few more notes, now that you have your coaling situation under control. By far, the preferred way to deal with coals is to just give time to burn down every load sufficiently, before stuffing the next into the stove. I do this by just setting my stove to a burn rate that gets me down to the ideal amount of coals for reload (shown below) in 12 hours, and then load my stove every 12 hours. In milder weather, this may carry the entire heat load of this part of the house. In our coldest weather, this means my oil-fired boiler is kicking in a bit at the end of the burn cycle. But I don’t care, I’m still saving an enormous amount of oil, while keeping the stoves going, and enjoying the whole experience much more than fighting to stay ahead of it. This was my stove at reload time this morning, before work, about 2” deep coals covering the forward 30 - 40% of the floor of the stove, everything behind that is dead ash.
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The airwash is pretty aggressive of the BK 30’s, and I believe that’s different than the classic BK models, like the Princess or King. I believe their air wash is more lazy, but that BK was likely trying to kick their “black box with dirty glass” reputation to the curb when they designed these stoves. It does work quite well for burning down coals.
I load north-south. I find it easier to get the maximum amount of wood into the stove. Since I’m running one stove on mostly consistent 12-hour batches and the other on 24-hour batches, being able to consistently jam nearly the same amount of wood into the stove every time helps me nail the timing for the next reload most closely.
Nah... even my 30.1’s keep the glass pretty clean. This ain’t no Princess. Check out that pattern of clean and dusty spots on the air deflector at the top of my door opening, that’s from the air wash rushing clean air across it, behind the glass.OK, this must be the 2020 version..
Interesting. I believe you, but I’ve never had a reason to try this. I suspect E/W might also give a prettier presentation for ambience burning.
No modern stove can be closed completely, but cat stoves should typically shut down tighter than a non-cat, due to their ability to maintain re-burn at lower temperatures with longer burn cycles. I suspect that, as Alpine already stated, the heat loss due to conduction might be at least as high as any convective loss with the stove shut down, if you have an exposed metal chimney system. I’ve felt some mighty cold stoves and chimneys, in the houses of folks who don’t keep them running.
Jacub said on a "low burn," but we don't know how low that is compared to your burns, how much draft he's got etc. Granted, you must be running the 24-hr stove pretty low..unless you are milking the coal bed a long time and the actual load burn has a decent amount of air being pulled through.
SpaceBus
Minister of Fire
RDU? Taking a little vacation? I can't imagine many BK owners in NC aside from the Mountains.
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