2018 Garage Build

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We still have some 3/4 inch crushed stone left after finishing the entrance to the new garage today. Tomorrow I'll do some grading on the east side of the garage so it will be ready for topsoil.

The tractor and the boat were put in the new garage just before we received just under 3/4 of an inch of rain real quick.
 
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Nothing better than keeping that stuff under cover. Your boat and tractor will appreciate that. Nice looking garage.
 
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Nothing better than keeping that stuff under cover. Your boat and tractor will appreciate that. Nice looking garage.
The boat had my side in the attached garage all year so it's never been stored outside, the tractor is finally inside so that is nice. We decided that we would wait on finishing anything on the inside until next year.

We're going to spend some money on topsoil so we can get some grass going, the hard rain tonight showed me the areas that need grading which I hope is done tomorrow and then we can order the topsoil on Monday.
 
do you have a picture of it in the daylight?
 

I hope that’s a satellite dish, and not just a poltergeist hanging from your gable, there. :-p
 
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I hope that’s a satellite dish, and not just a poltergeist hanging from your gable, there. :p
It's the good witch coming. ;)
 
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do you have a picture of it in the daylight?
I'll get one tomorrow after I get more work done grading it. Today I raked the back and the west side of the garage, I then took a garage floor magnetic sweep over the sand in the back and the west side which picked up a total of ten more screws.

I hauled more sand to both sides that I'll rake out tomorrow and then seed and cover with dirt.
 
It's the good witch coming. ;)

The wife is happy that the attached garage has opened up since we moved some stuff up, by the end of next week we'll have more room after we move out a table top which will become my work bench with storage.
 
I have a bit of a hate for OSB. I think I have seen it absorb moisture too many times and swell. I think I would use plywood and accept its imperfections as rustic charm.
I totally agree .OSB tends to vary quite a bit for durability. I use plywood almost exclusively for durability and strength especially if there is any chance of it ever getting wet. I have piece of 3/4 plywood that sat outside for almost 20 years in all kinds of weather and its still solid, black in color, but solid.
 
It won't take long to fill the new garage up, most of the back wall will be a work bench and shelves for storage.

Looks good ,you can never have too much garage space. ID like to do the same but i dont have time to do it myself. A local builder in my area seems to have some good prices so i think ill farm this one out. Does a 3 or 4 car garage for about 20K [Hearth.com] 2018 Garage Build[Hearth.com] 2018 Garage Build
 
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I totally agree .OSB tends to vary quite a bit for durability. I use plywood almost exclusively for durability and strength especially if there is any chance of it ever getting wet. I have piece of 3/4 plywood that sat outside for almost 20 years in all kinds of weather and its still solid, black in color, but solid.

Suit the material to the application. I prefer painted OSB for wall board because the varied texture hides the marks that inevitably happen in a work shop. It’s also less often cupped / potato chipped, and goes up flatter and neater, in this application.

For exterior applications, I always went plywood, but I’m doing a small storage shed in T1-11 OSB now. It looks nice, and the product is supposed to do very well. THis shed is going to sit out in the woods, wetlands-adjacent, housing my rotary mower (brush hog). It will be a good test case for the product, I don’t really care if it starts to look a little ratty after a decade or two, but I don’t think it will.

The second floor decking in my current shop is a T&G OSB product, that the builders raved about. I always did 2x12 fir decking, in my past shops and barns, but I let them talk me into this for the current shop. I have to admit, it is impressively strong, and was even rated for rain exposure for 30 days, during the build. Impressive stuff.

Yes, if your plan to leave it outside for almost 20 years, then plywood may be better for that application. [emoji14]
 
Looks good ,you can never have too much garage space. ID like to do the same but i dont have time to do it myself. A local builder in my area seems to have some good prices so i think ill farm this one out. Does a 3 or 4 car garage for about 20K View attachment 228698View attachment 228699
I like the tan and green one (but not the color) in that post. The lower one could get tucked away in the back yard of a semi-residential area and not attract too much attention.

As I look to build or buy, I decided that I'm building a shop right away. I'll tack it onto the mortgage right out of the gate. If you're building it only makes sense.
 
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The second floor decking in my current shop is a T&G OSB product, that the builders raved about. I always did 2x12 fir decking, in my past shops and barns, but I let them talk me into this for the current shop. I have to admit, it is impressively strong, and was even rated for rain exposure for 30 days, during the build. Impressive stuff.

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Your probably talking about ADVAN TECH Thats the best OSB type board i know of. It is very durable and moisture resistant. Its also MORE expensive than plywood. I did use OSB subfloors(Not Advan Tech) in a long term project build im currently doing mostly because plywood tends to not be as flat and uniform. I probably should have spent the extra money on Advantech but it was twice the price.
 
Your probably talking about ADVAN TECH Thats the best OSB type board i know of. It is very durable and moisture resistant. Its also MORE expensive than plywood.

That’s the stuff! I just used the last two leftover sheets this past weekend, on a shed build. Heavy as eff, but dead flat, and increadibly stiff.
 
If your build will not have a roof on it right away and may get rained on a few times, Advan Tech is probably the only way to go. Regular OSB subfloors will fall apart so much faster than Advan Tech ,especially under water. Another good OSB is ZIP board. The green is for siding and the Red (Slightly thicker) is for roofing.Iv seen this last over winter before the shingles were applied which is amazing, although it is rated for only 30 days exposed to the elements .It has a colored waterproof membrane on one side and seams should be taped with ZIP tape to make it waterproof.
 
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It looks like this year we'll insulate the back wall with about eight feet each of the two side walls coming off the back, we'll also put up some osb so we can put up the workbench and some storage.
 
We picked up some insulation for the garage yesterday and when we got home I went to work on insulating 31 or 32 bays, the wife was out there helping with the cutting to length.

We have another six rolls left that will cover 24 more bays and then it will be time to put on some OSB and then the workbenches and build some shelves for storage.
 

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We picked up some insulation for the garage yesterday and when we got home I went to work on insulating 31 or 32 bays, the wife was out there helping with the cutting to length.

We have another six rolls left that will cover 24 more bays and then it will be time to put on some OSB and then the workbenches and build some shelves for storage.
Looks great.

If you are going to sheetrock the ceiling or enclose it in any way, consider some LED can lights. They can be had for cheap on closeout sales and they look just as good in a garage as a home.
 
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I did another 12 or more bays today with 3 more rolls left that should do the same amount on the opposite side.
 

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I've been waterproofing the cement blocks, picture one is before and the second picture is after one coat of Thompson's. I did get a second coat on three sides but the eastside blocks are still wet from the rain we've been getting so they might need another day of drying before the first coat goes on.
 

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What made you decide to go with the traditional framing vs the standard pole barn framing, was it the insulation, just curious? I have friends with both styles and they are both happy with their buildings. The buddy with the traditional pole barn framing doesn't have his insulated, and has no plans to do so. How are you going to insulate the ceiling?
 
What made you decide to go with the traditional framing vs the standard pole barn framing, was it the insulation, just curious? I have friends with both styles and they are both happy with their buildings. The buddy with the traditional pole barn framing doesn't have his insulated, and has no plans to do so. How are you going to insulate the ceiling?
I just insulated our pole building. I used 2" foam everywhere and in the shop area where we will be actually heating full time i doubled up the foam and r30 in the ceiling which is framed with a loft over it. The building was already built when we bought the place but i would have done a pole building regardless. They are just much cheaper. They are not as easy to get sealed up really well but i am not to concerned with that.