2 New BIG Hybrid CAT stoves
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The 2 companies actually work together pretty closely to develop durable stoves. They also share unparalleled customer service! Something they've learned from one another I would guess.
Ya, just pull the pipe up and sweep it out. Hope I don't get accused of being a crook for suggesting that.I thought a visual aid might help
That is quite an opening to let creosote fall in behind the cat when sweeping.
Ya, just pull the pipe up and sweep it out. Hope I don't get accused of being a crook for suggesting that.
I'm pretty sure there isn't quite as much space for stuff to get thru there with the 6" opening of the smaller stove. I was trying to make that point before it got stupid.
That's pretty cool. If that's enough for your home and weather conditions, better yet.
I just looked at their design again their bypass blocks the back of the cat when opened. But again i have yet to see one working in person glad to hear some are getting close to claimed burn times
Does it? Maybe they made a change?
Now, get that air tube outa there and they might onto something!
It does look pretty good, and I'm a big regency fan. They make great stuff. So does Travis Industries, and their Cape Cod let me down big time! I'm just not willing to spend big bucks on something that's a totally new design. They blamed me for the issues, rather owning it. That's a lot of my issue with them I guess.
The regency design looks very similar to a Princess, with a few mods. It should do ok if the cat holds up.
good discussion ...
when I was in the store, if memory serves, it looked to me like the Regency bypass did flip up and open, blocking the back of the Cat with the bypass flap.
I'm all ears on how this stove is performing ongoing.
Another question:
I have a fully tile lined 28' tall brick chimney in the centre of my 2 story ground level entry home - chimney is in great shape - European mason custom built it. My PE Summit throws enough heat into the large brick chimney from its ground level location, to provide AWESOME passive heat storage in the chimney, that keeps the whole house toasty warm all night on both floors. I show very little creosote buildup at yearly cleaning so things are working well with my well seasoned wood ... but I want longer burns that CAT stoves provide.
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The Summit works well with my chimney even though another EPA stove (Drolet Baltic) was not able to compensate for my slightly oversize flue @ 6"x10". I do get an occasional unpleasant backpuff with the Summit when re-loading if the chimney is cold, an inversion is in place, or I'm not attentive and careful re-loading.
Cat stoves are notorious for putting less heat into the chimney and I'm wondering how this Regency CAT stove, or a BKing for that matter, would fare on my setup?
Also my chimney has a 6" thimble going into my brick chimney, so I would use 8" pipe from stove to thimble, but then have to reduce to 6" at the thimble, and then go into the 28' of larger 6x10" ceramic main chimney.
Any thoughts, ideas hunches, on how the CAT stoves with less heat up the chimney would fare on my setup? I can squeeze 8 to 10 hours burn/glow time out of my Summit with ideal conditions and great hardwood, but I sure would like to even double that.
when I was in the store, if memory serves, it looked to me like the Regency bypass did flip up and open, blocking the back of the Cat with the bypass flap.
I'm all ears on how this stove is performing ongoing.
Another question:
I have a fully tile lined 28' tall brick chimney in the centre of my 2 story ground level entry home - chimney is in great shape - European mason custom built it. My PE Summit throws enough heat into the large brick chimney from its ground level location, to provide AWESOME passive heat storage in the chimney, that keeps the whole house toasty warm all night on both floors. I show very little creosote buildup at yearly cleaning so things are working well with my well seasoned wood ... but I want longer burns that CAT stoves provide.
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The Summit works well with my chimney even though another EPA stove (Drolet Baltic) was not able to compensate for my slightly oversize flue @ 6"x10". I do get an occasional unpleasant backpuff with the Summit when re-loading if the chimney is cold, an inversion is in place, or I'm not attentive and careful re-loading.
Cat stoves are notorious for putting less heat into the chimney and I'm wondering how this Regency CAT stove, or a BKing for that matter, would fare on my setup?
Also my chimney has a 6" thimble going into my brick chimney, so I would use 8" pipe from stove to thimble, but then have to reduce to 6" at the thimble, and then go into the 28' of larger 6x10" ceramic main chimney.
Any thoughts, ideas hunches, on how the CAT stoves with less heat up the chimney would fare on my setup? I can squeeze 8 to 10 hours burn/glow time out of my Summit with ideal conditions and great hardwood, but I sure would like to even double that.
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That's about the most inefficient shape of flue you could have and still be clay lined. Combine that with a reduction at the thimble, I would expect you might have trouble with any 8" stove, cat or not. But, with 28' you might not have any trouble at all. There's only one way to find out!
I like new stuff as much as the next guy, but weigh the risks. The BK is a proven design and will out burn that 5100. I got burned on that Cape Cod, I just don't want someone else to have the same bad experience I had. It didn't even last a whole year!
I like new stuff as much as the next guy, but weigh the risks. The BK is a proven design and will out burn that 5100. I got burned on that Cape Cod, I just don't want someone else to have the same bad experience I had. It didn't even last a whole year!
My thoughts are that the BK will work with your chimney, but you won't see the low end, low burn performance that you could. I think you will need to run a higher than normal thermostat setting to compensate for the less than ideal chimney setup. But I could be wrong.
From what I've read about the Recency, 6" chimneys are bad because of overdraft possibilities.
I feel like webby. There are bazillions of happy Blaze King owners......
From what I've read about the Recency, 6" chimneys are bad because of overdraft possibilities.
I feel like webby. There are bazillions of happy Blaze King owners......
Tenn Dave
Minister of Fire
Beware of biased opinions and outright 'cheerleaders' for certain brands. If you are considering one of these new stoves, try and find someone with real world operating experience.
Tenn Dave
Minister of Fire
Offer has been out there for three years. $100 to anybody that can produce the post where I recommended buying the stove that I have.
Tenn Dave
Minister of Fire
I will say it again - If you are considering one of these new stoves, try and find someone with real world operating experience.
Hey ill recommend the stove i have i love it but its 40 years old lol. Seriously i like regency stuff and i sell them but there are allot of other stoves out there many are good as well some are probably better.as far as the 5100 goes i cant give much of a recommendation yet. I agree with tenn dave i just don't have experience with them yet and not many do
Tenn Dave
Minister of Fire
bholler, you make a good point. Perhaps we need to wait a bit before passing judgment. However I will say that hybrid technology has been out a while and it does work.
I don't doubt it is a good stove i just personally don't have the experience to give recommendations. And the design looks good to me but again without seeing them out there and burning i cant say more than i don't see any flaws.
Tenn Dave
Minister of Fire
Your comment is fair and open minded. Only time will tell about the performance of this new stove.
exactly i would never tell anyone not to get it but i will tell them it is new and not allot of feedback yet
Why shouldn't someone recommend a product they are happy with? I would recommend a Blaze King to anyone, as it is a quality product that works as advertised, sometimes better.
My opinions are biased, towards stuff I have experience with. If I didn't like it, I wouldn't keep it. I can't recommend anything I've never used before.
My opinions are biased, towards stuff I have experience with. If I didn't like it, I wouldn't keep it. I can't recommend anything I've never used before.
I appreciate all the comments and am all ears if anyone has a BKing or 5100 or other large CAT stove running on non SS chimney.
My chimney contains a Tile Flue 6"x10" / 6 inch thimble @ 28' high, surrounded by brick (2'x5') located in the center of house.
Thermal mass retains and radiates heat for hours - love it!
Thanks
My chimney contains a Tile Flue 6"x10" / 6 inch thimble @ 28' high, surrounded by brick (2'x5') located in the center of house.
Thermal mass retains and radiates heat for hours - love it!
Thanks
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