Wood insert in metal firebox

[EasternWA]

Hello experts,

I removed an old Quadrafire wood insert as part of a fireplace remodel. It was in an old metal fireplace “Fireplaces by Martin.” There is no masonry around the firebox (see pictures).

We had a couple guys come out and look at it. One said said we need a new chimney. The other tried to get us to go to a zero clearance fireplace. I think both guys are trying to upsell.

There’s a metal flex pipe inside the exterior metal liner (see pictures).

Is there a reason I can’t stick a new insert in here as long as the wood framing meets the combustible clearance requirements?

Thank you !

 

[bholler]

Hello experts,

I removed an old Quadrafire wood insert as part of a fireplace remodel. It was in an old metal fireplace “Fireplaces by Martin.” There is no masonry around the firebox (see pictures).

We had a couple guys come out and look at it. One said said we need a new chimney. The other tried to get us to go to a zero clearance fireplace. I think both guys are trying to upsell.

There’s a metal flex pipe inside the exterior metal liner (see pictures).

Is there a reason I can’t stick a new insert in here as long as the wood framing meets the combustible clearance requirements?

Thank you !

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Show us the data tag and any other tags on the fireplace

 

[EasternWA]

Show us the data tag and any other tags on the fireplace

 

[begreen]

We need to see the model number to verify that an insert is permitted, in the manual, for this fireplace.

 

[EasternWA]

We need to see the model number to verify that an insert is permitted, in the manual, for this fireplace.

The model number is BWH-36A.

 

[bholler]

The model number is BWH-36A.

I can't find a manual for that fireplace. What does the manual say about inserts or any unspecified accessories?

 

[stoveliker]

Martin Fireplaces Indoor Fireplace BWH 36 Manual | ManualsOnline.com

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Edit, bummer.i thought the manual was here but it's not. I my.a request for one.

 

[EasternWA]

I can't find a manual for that fireplace. What does the manual say about inserts or any unspecified accessories?

I can't find a manual for that fireplace. What does the manual say about inserts or any unspecified accessories?

 

[EasternWA]

I see this, but I assume it’s ok for an insert because a reputable business installed one in the early 90’s (the old Quadrafire insert)

 

[bholler]

I see this, but I assume it’s ok for an insert because a reputable business installed one in the early 90’s (the old Quadrafire insert)

Assuming that the buisness was reputable and following safety standards is absolutely not a safe bet at all. I can tell you I absolutely would refuse to install an insert in it unless the manual says you can.