whats the deal with european inserts?

[hardboiledeggs]

hey guys, still going through my search of finding the right insert for me. have been looking for the largest and widest inserts i can find and kind of ended up down the rabbit hole across the pond. in north america the widest insert i can find is about ~32 or so inches but in europe i can find about a dozen that are 1 meter (40 inches). they aren't epa certified but list their efficiencies and are eu rated between 70/85%. the weird thing is that even with the large sizes the highest output i can find is around 15KW (50000btu). they all seem to have secondary burn systems and circulating fans too. Other thing is that even with currency conversion, their prices seem pretty good. Im in canada so i think id likely have better luck importing one than you guys down south but is this a route worth perusing or am i missing something? any one in europe or someone whose bought one have any insight?
thank you
some of the units i found

Wood burning steel stove KRATKI KARI 95 Ø 180 14 kW | Kratki

The KARI 95 stove with a rated output of 14 kW is the ideal solution for efficiently heating large spaces. Unique, modern and environmentally friendly, it meets the criteria of the Ecodesign and the strict German BlmschV II standard. Thanks to its advance

kratki.com

Dik Geurts Instyle 1000V 9-13kw

Dik Geurts Instyle 1000V 9-13kw

cheshiredesigncentre.co.uk

Products

QBOX 100 is a 100 cm wide wood burning fireplace insert with front ventilation and access to tax benefits.

www.mcz.it

Insert de leña Sere 100 - Hergom

Perfect panoramic view for heating large rooms

www.hergom.com

Studio Air Edge+ Inset Wood Burning Fires

Making for easy finishing around your Stovax Studio Air wood burning fire, the Edge+ frame provides a similar minimalist finish to the Edge, but with a

www.stovax.com

Nova | Ravelli

5-star wood insert - linear and clean design - wide view of the flame - optional ducting kit - optional front ventilation kit

eng.ravelligroup.it

Carbel I100 Insert stove | Wood Stove Online

Carbel I100 Insert stove, discover the I range of new insert stoves. Design, excellent output, perfomance and high efficiency. Official Carbel distributor..

www.woodstoveonline.com

 

[stoveliker]

I think that with shipping cost and custom (you'll need a broker for importing), it's likely a wash financially.
Shipping a heavy bulky item is expensive.

Is it allowed in Canada to install a non-approved appliance?
Also, that first one is not an insert?

 

[begreen]

Their marketing has different terminology. An insert can be different there. This is similar to US marketing calling a ZC fireplace an insert, though many European designs are quite different in construction and requirements than US ZCs. In part this may be due to the prevalence of all masonry building construction in some areas.

 

[hardboiledeggs]

I think that with shipping cost and custom (you'll need a broker for importing), it's likely a wash financially.
Shipping a heavy bulky item is expensive.

Is it allowed in Canada to install a non-approved appliance?
Also, that first one is not an insert?

Family has a dealership so we have a lady who can handle shipping arragements. regardless if its a wash then id likely side on the larger unit.
As far as i know we are a lot easier on emmisions stuff here in canada, we can still delete diesels at least.
and posted wrong unit on that first one

Fireplace cassette KRATKI ARKE 95 14 kW Ø 200 self closing door | Kratki

ARKE cassette is a closed fireplace type, which is installed in existing open fireplaces. Its simple and elegant look goes hand in hand with excellent heating parameters. What is more, it has a clean glass system, which along with a separate container, he

kratki.com

 

[hardboiledeggs]

Their marketing has different terminology. An insert can be different there. This is similar to US marketing calling a ZC fireplace an insert, though many European designs are quite different in construction and requirements than US ZCs. In part this may be due to the prevalence of all masonry building construction in some areas.

ya been a little confusing to decifer. my mind still works in inches/feet even though canada is metric, main difference i see is they use a "cassette" style fireplace but i havent seen anything that says they need different clearances than what we have in NA

 

[Wisco Shepherd]

One thing to note would be customer support. I would prefer my stove was made in or near the country I use it in for parts, support, that sort of thing. If you have problems the local sweep may not be able to help out.