Wanted Cyber Sleuth

[restorer]

Looking for a technically advanced, and totally above competent individual, gender no issue, to slay the dragon. Must be able to find the real ID and agenda for a Net Poison Master, lacking morality and a conscience. Must be able to identify the party or parties involved, track their related activity and report back to the appropriate group. Compensation will be an adequate level of admiration, splits of wood from around the world and a fine collection of pellets and coal bits from the far reaches of the planet. Novice inquiries will be given equal consideration with experienced veterans. No half jobs, must follow through.

Inquiries accepted and good questions will get bad answers. If you care about burning, you have an edge. But you have to prove it. Proof that you have burned a cord or ton is required. Other credentials are negotiable. Technical knowledge of the wood burning industry is required, but can be limited if you don't have a smoking dragon, or have never heard of a smoking jet. Technical understanding of acronyms related to the fuel industry is essential, but party affiliation is no issue.

 

[elkimmeg]

here what to do we know he is from south dakota ride his bike to work so he must live near a city or in the suburbs. So find out when Souix city has an earth day and invite

Pm you too suffer from a smoking neighbor pick out a suburb of the city and claim to reside there Claim you have gotten nowhere with town officials does he have any suggestions Better yet it does not even have to be south dakota all one needs is him to snail mail you info for your earth day chances are he will use a return address with his name on the envelope form there there are town records occupation street listing voter regristrations party affiliations. It is easy to smoke out god/ czars One could find out what talk news radio station in the city pm him and ask him to give you a phone number for contact and get his real name or you are that fellow having the same problem and in the neighboring town you know so and so at the talk radio station can you help me. Come on here get a bit creative It is easy to smoke the guy real identy out. after all he wants to be discouvered and spread his BS. similar tatics can be used for their other vocal
menbers.

Some where mary discloses her address on the site in San Fran one could go to her in the same way to get a mailing list or contact info.

one does not have to be Columbo but use his approach to fish it out

 

[babalu87]

I think we should just get all Medieval on their asses over there.
We need to make up a form letter that we can distribute to wood stove dealers in our specific areas stating the cause of burningissues and some of the "facts" they are using for the advancement of their cause.

There are enough wood burners out there to keep that admin busy until he eventually gives up and closes the site down.
That place has been around a while and as soon as we got wind of it there are already rules changes etc. Like I said about them previously, in my humble opinion no matter what evidence we bring to them we cannot reach them.
Unleash the Hounds is what I say

 

[Corey]

Well, I read the OP - I see the words, but I guess I'm dumb and don't understand the complete meaning. Are you wanting the info for burningissues.com?

The whois information is:

Registrant:
Worldwide Media, Inc

[non relevant info cut out] - Corey


I wish I had time to check out both sites. burningissues has been around for years, but I guess it's only recently that hearth has 'discovered' them.

Corey

 

[HalJason]

Well, I read the OP - I see the words, but I guess I'm dumb and don't understand the complete meaning. Are you wanting the info for burningissues.com?

The whois information is:

Registrant:
Worldwide Media, Inc
PO Box 129
Highlands, NC 28741
US

Corey

burningissues.org is the one in question, not .com. There's loads of info out there with their address, they're part of a registered non profit in California.

-Hal

 

[Corey]

Oh - in that case:

Registrant:
Burning Issues
ATTN: BURNINGISSUES.ORG
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA 20172-0447

Domain Name: BURNINGISSUES.ORG

Administrative Contact :
Rozenberg, Mary
[email protected]
ATTN: BURNINGISSUES.ORG
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA 20172-0447
Phone: 570-708-8780

Technical Contact :
Rozenberg, Mary
[email protected]
ATTN: BURNINGISSUES.ORG
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA 20172-0447
Phone: 570-708-8780


If you google Mary Rozenberg (61yo), you find her name, husband Donald (70yo), Last known address:


Box 1045
Point Arena CA 95468
Tel: 707-882-3601
email: [email protected]


Maybe someone can come along that can add more info.

Corey

 

[lepp]

Gentlemen,

Enough! What exactly would you do with detailed personal information? This has been a pretty fun series of posting here and there and I've learned a lot by reading the great rebuttals. If nothing else it's an excellent example of what NOT to do if you are running a quality forum. Let's not get personal, that's one of the problems over there, everything is filtered through the bias of the forum owner.

I see that several members from here have posted thoughtful, informed, relevant posts there that are still listed. In fact, LOL, if you take a look at the forum almost all the latest posts are from pro-woodburners. You are crowding out the others and only Bodhi seems to be actively responding.

And, in the thread titled "Well there goes teh reason that this site exists" he/she says: "ahemmmmm. on the new stoves: i just said i was going to check them out. check one of your other recent posts where i answered your query. i am considering a trip to the local fire place shop to check out the certified wood stove technology. but don't get all squishy on me, it doesn't mean that i will become a supporter"

I think I see a chink in the armour. Let's not undo the good work by doing something not worthy of this great forum.

 

[restorer]

Well, I started this thread as a tongue in cheek Help Wanted Ad. Not really wanting to go after the person, but the source of the rant. It would be nice to see the real agenda and who is perpetrating it. With knowledge of the source we can see where else they are going. I am surprised how easy the information can be had. That's a sign of my limited internet knowledge.

Would it be safe to say, Bohdi is a cyber-shill for Mary? Is that how she's trying to protect her intentions and add to her "credibility"?

 

[slowzuki]

As many people as their are, there are opinions. They have every right to be concerned with woodsmoke, as we have every right to be concerned about oil as a future heat source.

 

[erikdhafaB]

Mary Rozenburg has nothing whatsoever to do with burning issues. She is the contact person at Network Solutions for privacy service. Network Solutions is one of the groups that is responsible for issuing domain names (ie hearth.com or burningissues.org). Normally an administrative and a technical contact must be listed from the person or group that owns the domain name, but if you do not want your name, address and email to be available for anyone to look up on a whois search, you can pay Network Solutions for a private registration, where they list themselves as the contact and screen the registrant. That will be a dead end (unless you are law enforcement).

 

[restorer]

Mary Rozenburg has nothing whatsoever to do with burning issues. She is the contact person at Network Solutions for privacy service. Network Solutions is one of the groups that is responsible for issuing domain names (ie hearth.com or burningissues.org). Normally an administrative and a technical contact must be listed from the person or group that owns the domain name, but if you do not want your name, address and email to be available for anyone to look up on a whois search, you can pay Network Solutions for a private registration, where they list themselves as the contact and screen the registrant. That will be a dead end (unless you are law enforcement).

Mary Rozenburg has a lot to do with the site. I am not able to actively search it as I am banned, but I believe she founded the Clean Air Revival, Inc. the parent corp. of the website. I think the reverse is true, she has nothing to do with Network Solutions.

 

[CountryGal]

Mary Rozenburg has nothing whatsoever to do with burning issues. She is the contact person at Network Solutions for privacy service. Network Solutions is one of the groups that is responsible for issuing domain names (ie hearth.com or burningissues.org). Normally an administrative and a technical contact must be listed from the person or group that owns the domain name, but if you do not want your name, address and email to be available for anyone to look up on a whois search, you can pay Network Solutions for a private registration, where they list themselves as the contact and screen the registrant. That will be a dead end (unless you are law enforcement).

Ah, not so:

However, most local jurisdictions don't want to touch the issue, says the activist group Burning Issues, since the right to burn is near and dear to many people. Another issue: restaurants in some areas are increasingly using wood-fired cooking, resulting in indoor pollution levels similar to those produced by cigarette smoke, says BI's Mary Rozenberg, 707-882-3601, [email protected], http://www.webcom.com/~bi/welcome.html. EPA has some information about related indoor air quality issues: (broken link removed to http://www.epa.gov/iaq/pubs/combust.html)

 

[CountryGal]

A child and his/her family has a right to:

Be presented with the proven scientific facts of the dangers of smoke and it's long trending damage to the child's airways, lungs, heart and immune system, in a manner which raises appropriate concerns and avoids needless anxiety

Be cared for by a supportive physician who provides preventive management by explaining to the child and parents the dangers of combustion by-products of candles, wood smoke, tobacco smoke, barbecue smoke, incense, and all smoke and fumes and their role in causing asthma, immune damage leading to allergies, long trending respiratory damage, and reduced lung function, even in asymptomatic children.

Live in a smoke-free and clean energy (non wood-burning) home where reasonable attempts at eliminating relevant allergens are made (including woodsmoke, candle smoke, tobacco smoke, barbecue smoke, and incense.)

Have full access to clean air so that potential scholastic, athletic, and social achievements are not limited by uncontrolled asthma and lost school days due to i
infections. To have athletic areas that are tobacco and wood smoke free. Including re-entrained woodsmoke in gyms and outdoors in football fields including play grounds, campgrounds, summer camps, scouting, and all child recreation areas (including mystery houses, laser tag, and activities such as hay rides).

Learn self-management skills to minimize exposure to smoke and fumes and to have confidence they will not be exposed to hazardous combustion toxins such as dioxins and microscopic particles.

Expect teachers, school nurses, coaches, camp counselors, and other adults entrusted with their care to understand the enlightened handling of pollution episodes and to promise to not expose them to any combustion byproducts, or any hazardous pollutants, and to notify public guardians if smoke or any hazardous pollutants, endanger their children. Expect caretakers to evacuate children to a smoke free area until the danger is cleared.


Expect fire departments and police departments to be educated about the dangers of all smoke and to intervene and stop polluters endangering the life and health of the children.

Expect communities to protect children's rights to a smoke free environment by banning open burning, fireplaces, woodstoves, and wood burning restaurants, in addition to tobacco. Expect communities and air districts to implement Awareness and Education Campaigns.

Burning Issues
Box 1045
Point Arena, CA, USA 95468
Tel: 707-882-3601
(broken link removed to http://www.childrensrights.com/cbr.htm)

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This is her agenda.

 

[CountryGal]

Expect caretakers to evacuate children to a smoke free area until the danger is cleared.

I'll have to ask my husband (a teacher) if they evacuate the school when they have a school BBQ function.

 

[begreen]

I wonder if her children are allowed to eat meat or have candy. Both known sources of carcinogens.

 

[erikdhafaB]

I stand corrected. They are screening only the address information, not the name.

 

[restorer]

Here is some more disturbing information. Seems they think they can just use copyrighted material, but deny others the right. Wonder if the copyright holders know who's using their stuff and for what;

Quote from their site:

Burning Issues
FAIR USE NOTICE:

This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. It is being made available in an effort to advance the understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, and so on. It is believed that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.

The material in this site is provided for educational and informational purposes only, and is not intended to be a substitute for a health care provider's consultation. Please consult your own appropriate health care provider about the applicability of any opinions or recommendations with respect to your own symptoms or medical conditions. The information on this site does not constitute legal or technical advice.
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Burning Issues
Box 1045
Point Arena CA 95468
Tel: 707-882-3601
Email: [pm10mary at mcn dot org]
URL:http://burningissues.org