quadrafire classic bay 1200

[densarc]

well after 5 years of using england stove works 25pvd i went and purchaced a classic bay 1200 for our basement should heat my 1000 sqft home easy.

i have a question about the outside air kit (dont really get it) when i compare it to my other stove

1 on the england stove works the outside air kit is piped directly into the fire pot and is sealled off.

on the classic bay 1200 i see that you bolt the plate to the base of the stove (when i look into the hole i see the floor tile ) and theres a small flex pipe that is supposed to connect to it and go outside (dont really see how its long enough. how does the outside air get to the burn pot ( is there some connection i am missing?

its almost like there should be a tube under the stove to get to the burn pot.i have to say that for the first time using a pellet stove i am confused.

 

[tjnamtiw]

An OAK on a Quad, IMHO, is a waste of time since they are, as you discovered, not sealed worth a darn. I put an OAK on my Castile going out the ash dump in the fireplace but can't really see any difference. I still have not done anything to the other stove, which doesn't have an available ash dump. Have to go all the way up the chimney for that one.

 

[Don2222]

well after 5 years of using england stove works 25pvd i went and purchaced a classic bay 1200 for our basement should heat my 1000 sqft home easy.

i have a question about the outside air kit (dont really get it) when i compare it to my other stove

1 on the england stove works the outside air kit is piped directly into the fire pot and is sealled off.

on the classic bay 1200 i see that you bolt the plate to the base of the stove (when i look into the hole i see the floor tile ) and theres a small flex pipe that is supposed to connect to it and go outside (dont really see how its long enough. how does the outside air get to the burn pot ( is there some connection i am missing?

its almost like there should be a tube under the stove to get to the burn pot.i have to say that for the first time using a pellet stove i am confused.

I had a Quad CB1200 and you are correct about seeing the floor thru that hole for the OAK. However if you lay the quad on it's side and look at the bottom, you will see another hole going up behind the firewall and into the bottom of the burn pot. So the idea here is the bottom edge of the stove creates the seal with the floor. So if the floor is a flat cement floor, then no problem. If it is on tile you could try to seal it a little better.

I believe DexterDay has an OAK on his CB1200 and said it does work well.

 

[kinsmanstoves]

This is a little known secret but.....You do not need an OAK on a lot of stoves much less a Classic Bay. It might help it might not make any difference other than less work.

The other thing is that Quads will burn sand an make BTUs. That might not be 100% true but close.

Good luck with it but you will see a difference in the two stoves.


Eric

 

[densarc]

I had a Quad CB1200 and you are correct about seeing the floor thru that hole for the OAK. However if you lay the quad on it's side and look at the bottom, you will see another hole going up behind the firewall and into the bottom of the burn pot. So the idea here is the bottom edge of the stove creates the seal with the floor. So if the floor is a flat cement floor, then no problem. If it is on tile you could try to seal it a little better.

I believe DexterDay has an OAK on his CB1200 and said it does work well.

thanks for the info.I figured it had to be something like that i will try and tilt it to get a look maybee i can connet the two

 

[densarc]

This is a little known secret but.....You do not need an OAK on a lot of stoves much less a Classic Bay. It might help it might not make any difference other than less work.

The other thing is that Quads will burn sand an make BTUs. That might not be 100% true but close.

Good luck with it but you will see a difference in the two stoves.


Eric

well i have been waiting to get a quad for a while. i agree that its prob. optional on this stove. i can only guage it by the england stove works the outside air kit is mandatory on that one, i think thats what was throwing me off. has far as quad being a better stove i will agree alittle more complicated a stove but a major upgrade. now i am looking for some sort of service manual for it.(thats one of the things about the englander they had videos on replacing everthing int ). not sure it thats a measure of quallity that they had to but i think the concepts are all the same, but i hope to find a service manual at some point.

 

[DexterDay]

There is a plate on the front of the stove, just above the ash pan (2 phillips screws). It houses the ash dump lever and ignitor. If you look inside there, in the very back, you will see a rectangle. Thats where the air comes from. Now open the doors on either the left or right side of the stove and you will see a box that welded onto the back of the firebox (about a ft tall). Thats the channel from the bottom of the stove, to the area under the pot...

All stoves use air for combustion. You can ise outside air or inside air. I sealed all the holes in the bottom of the Quad and used High Temp silicone on the box the air travels to get from bottom to ignitor area. Its not 100% sealed. But air will take the path of least resistance. I used mine with and without an OAK. I like mine.... I like it better sealed the way I have it now, but a lot of stoves made today are built like this.

In the event of a clogged intake, the stove can still pull some inside air...

My 2 pennies. That Quad is a Hell of a heater. Like Eric said, it will burn sand and make Heat!