PE introduces the LE2 line

[begreen]

PE now lists the new LE2 line of woodstoves on their website. The new models are all based on the smaller 1.4 (Vista) and 1.6 cu ft (Neo) fireboxes. The LE2 models qualify for the 30% tax credit and are still non-catalytic stoves. They use a unique flue gas agitation system to acheive the 75% HHV requirement.

LE2 Approved - Pacific Energy

LE2 Wood Stoves Now Available Order one of our newly certified LE2 wood stoves by the EPA. Order the new and even better LE2 with 30% US Tax Credit. Visit a Pacific Energy dealer Visit a Pacific Energy showroom near your and order a LE2 wood stove now. Find a Showroom Longer Burn Times Higher […]

www.pacificenergy.net

 

[Itslay90]

PE now lists the new LE2 line of woodstoves on their website. The new models are all based on the smaller 1.4 (Vista) and 1.6 cu ft (Neo) fireboxes. The LE2 models qualify for the 30% tax credit and are still non-catalytic stoves. They use a unique flue gas agitation system to acheive the 75% HHV requirement.

LE2 Approved - Pacific Energy

LE2 Wood Stoves Now Available Order one of our newly certified LE2 wood stoves by the EPA. Order the new and even better LE2 with 30% US Tax Credit. Visit a Pacific Energy dealer Visit a Pacific Energy showroom near your and order a LE2 wood stove now. Find a Showroom Longer Burn Times Higher […]

www.pacificenergy.net

They need to make a le2 to the summit Le, and the t5

 

[stoveliker]

Is this a similar idea as the turbulator of Joyful? --> autocorrect.... Jotul

Seems simple enough in construction to be robust.

Good that further development is done.

 

[Todd]

Is this a similar idea as the turbulator of Joyful? --> autocorrect.... Jotul

Seems simple enough in construction to be robust.

Good that further development is done.

Looks different than Jotul’s turbulator. Some kind of combustion management system that runs off a battery or ac? Maybe a better EBT? It’s nice the hit the 75% mark without a cat.

 

[stoveliker]

Yes, I saw the battery box but wasn't sure (without reading more) what that is for.

I don't like a stove that depends on electricity.
I presume it doesn't have moving parts in the exhaust pathway....? Then what is the power for ..?

 

[begreen]

The flue gas agitator is passive and at the flue exit. The secondary air supply is actively regulated. I've been waiting for the new documentation on this so that the information is correct. It does have battery backup that's good for 5-7 days I believe. The stove should still function without power, but I don't know what the static state of this regulator is when unpowered. Hopefully, PE will update documentation on this soon.

 

[stoveliker]

Ah,.okay. That's good; a passive mechanism for good combustion.

The secondary air regulated makes some sense. But based on what? Is there an O2 sensor..? We all know that those are prone to give trouble in dirty combustion (as a wood stove is).
Apparently the draft itself is not good enough a driver for secondary air to reach as complete a combustion as is possible with active regulation..

 

[begreen]

Here is an update from PE on how the LE2 system works:

The LE2 technology self-adjusts a portion of the primary and secondary air based on inputs from two thermal probes. The primary benefit is better start-ups and re-loads.

Two small servo motors do the work based on a bit of logic. The system can be powered by house power or batteries, and we are working on a thermal generator. If no power is available, you revert back to a Vista or a Neo 1.6. controllable as before.

 

[stoveliker]

Nice having a thermoelectric element to power the logic. Though the unpowered position would need to be such that that is the state beneficial for start-up.

 

[Fasttrack]

Thanks Begreen - I was just reading up on PE stoves today and noticed the AC power adapter / battery box in the manual for the LE2 stoves and was wondering what the heck that was all about.

So it sounds like, without power, the stove still works but requires manual adjustment the same as the old Vista or Neo fireboxes. That's not really a problem, IMO. And I like the idea of being able to snag the tax credit without needing a cat.

 

[begreen]

Yes, however it is only for emergency situations. Running it this way the stove would no longer be compliant.