Has any New York member take advantage of this program? Here is a link to the DEC website -- (broken link removed to http://www.dec.ny.gov/press/50594.html).
New York Homeowner Firewood Program
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Thanks Gunks, never knew I could take my tractor 15 miles down the road and pull 10 cord out of the woods for $150 if I win the lottery.
I know here in Ohio you can buy $10 daily permits and go in the state woods and cut. Rangers show you what your able to cut.
These state lands are very near to my house and I know several people who take advantage of this. It's harder than it sounds - none of the marked trees are generally near any of the roads. You generally need some serious equipment to get to the marked trees. They actively manage the forests to increase the quality of the timber, so they are happy to have people get the marked trees out for no cost.
A friend of mine said he and his dad used to use the family station wagon to haul wood out of state lands under this program.
A friend of mine said he and his dad used to use the family station wagon to haul wood out of state lands under this program.
If the State's involved ya may as well foget it. They'll only let you get junk (not sure if they even have anyone on staff anymore that knows Lodge Pole Pine from Sugar Maple) and they'll make it impossible to get.
Back in the day I knew folks that did that. They would buddy up and make a day of it it... almost sounded fun. Just be careful about overloading your truck cause now they write overload tickets to PU's.
savageactor7 said:
Yes. we'd get about 4-5 guys together and share the work/wood. As a boy I enjoyed it. You did need a tractor to get into the woods (no atvs in the 70s) We did get into trouble for getting mud on the paved road.
It looks like all of the land around me has trails through it that would be pretty easy to get a compact tractor down to skid out to the fire roads. With a winch, you probably would never need to leave the trail. From their description, it sounds like they are going to be thinning a lot of ash this year.
CowboyAndy said:
I don't know why they don't . There is enough standing dead/down stuff around here to go around. It gets my blood boiling seeing it all just rotting away.
I'm way outside the 50 mile radius. I wish they or the NYC DEP did something like that down here.
Well, I'll be upfront and tell you that I've never logged it myself, but I know people who have and the wood they got was quite good - good mixed hardwoods. Having a former NYS Forester as a father-in-law who, among other things, used to mark some of these trees for cutting if they were not of "lumber mill" quality, I can tell you for sure that they used to have qualified foresters. Just because a tree is bad for the lumber mill doesn't make it bad for burning.
The Brookfield State Forest is near where I live, and that is a very professionally managed forest for lumber, firewood, and recreation. NYS probably does one of the better jobs in managing its state forests. I wouldn't agree with an implication or statement that this part of the state government isn't well managed, but would agree that there are plenty of other areas in NYS Government that leave considerable room for improvement.
ohio woodburner said:
Do you know where I can get a permit or a link to information? And does this apply to NE ohio?
GatorDL55 said:
I was looking for the website to link up here for you, and when i got on there web site it said it was the only state forest in westeran Ohio. Turns out my parents live right across the road from it. So i guess i'm really not sure if there is state forest out east like the have here. Maybe this week i'll call the ranger and ask him about out there. I know it's been a really good deal for ten dollars. The rangers take you out in the morning and show you what to cut.
ohio woodburner said:
Yeah - that would be cool. I have been looking on the DNR website and haven't been able to find anything. I know that my Dad used to do this back in the day in Pennsylvania.
We used to go in years ago to Ma state forests and grab wood. At the first energy crisis in the 70iesthey went to raffles for 2 cords maximums because so many people started burning wood, even in just fireplaces. Too many cutting the wrong stuff too close to trails because getting the wood the foresters wanted removed was 'too much work'. Ruined it for everybody. Haven't been back since. Used to be fun in the early 70ies. Could even share a beer with a Ranger if you ever even saw one. Now they'd probably throw you out for drinking and cutting or open containers in public.
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