Mockernut Hickory or Ash??? Have lots of it...

[Detector$]

I have a ton of this stuff (from the big delivery I got last week). It splits fairly easily with the Fiskars Super Splitter. The bark is interesting, seems fairly thin and not very deeply furrowed. I can't tell if it's Mockernut Hickory or Ash (White Ash maybe)? Can you help?

 

[smokinj]

I have a ton of this stuff (from the big delivery I got last week). It splits fairly easily with the Fiskars Super Splitter. The bark is interesting, seems fairly thin and not very deeply furrowed. I can't tell if it's Mockernut Hickory or Ash (White Ash maybe)? Can you help?

ash

 

[Detector$]

What gives it away? So I can tell in the future....

 

[Detector$]

Any 2nd opinions? I thought Ash was supposed to have a lower moisture content than other woods... I split some right after I cut it and it practically splashed when I hit it with the splitter. What type of Ash would this be?

 

[LLigetfa]

Ja, Ash. Don't know if it's Green or White cuz we don't get White Ash in these parts but looks like Green Ash. It's a myth that you can burn it right away.

 

[WOODBUTCHER]

That's Ash, hickory would have a large dark heartwood.

WoodButcher

 

[gzecc]

Looks like green ash to me. Not as dry as white ash. White ash is the myth wood with MC @ 30% when green. Leave give it away then bark, unless its wet in the picture.

 

[Wood Duck]

Yea, like woodbutcher says, hickory should have a dark heartwood. White Ash is whitish the whole way through the log.

 

[Jags]

Its Ash. And yeah, I don't buy into the myth of it as well. As a matter of fact, the last couple of nightly fires I have had was 12 month seasoned ash, and it STILL does NOT burn as well as the 2+ year seasoned white oak. I'm just talking about lighting it up, not the actual wood characteristics.

 

[smokinj]

Its Ash. And yeah, I don't buy into the myth of it as well. As a matter of fact, the last couple of nightly fires I have had was 12 month seasoned ash, and it STILL does NOT burn as well as the 2+ year seasoned white oak. I'm just talking about lighting it up, not the actual wood characteristics.

jag's say its not so! 2 year old oak is going to out burn just about everything!

 

[Detector$]

It was raining last night when I took this picture.... the trees were cut (very alive and healthy) last week and I am just bucking & splitting them now. If it is green ash is it good wood to burn (after properly seasoned)? My family has a large farm with tons of Mockernut hickories with almost identical bark and leaves (with nuts for proof). This wood was delivered so if it had any nuts they're long gone. It is VERY aromatic.

 

[smokinj]

It was raining last night when I took this picture.... the trees were cut (very alive and healthy) last week and I am just bucking & splitting them now. If it is green ash is it good wood to burn (after properly seasoned)? My family has a large farm with tons of Mockernut hickories with almost identical bark and leaves (with nuts for proof). This wood was delivered so if it had any nuts they're long gone. It is VERY aromatic.

ash is good firewod hickory better,but that pic is ash for sure

 

[Jags]

Its Ash. And yeah, I don't buy into the myth of it as well. As a matter of fact, the last couple of nightly fires I have had was 12 month seasoned ash, and it STILL does NOT burn as well as the 2+ year seasoned white oak. I'm just talking about lighting it up, not the actual wood characteristics.

jag's say its not so! 2 year old oak is going to out burn just about everything!

Well...yeah, but the 12 month old ash is not impressive in my book. To me, it could really use about another 6 months of sun and wind.

 

[smokinj]

Its Ash. And yeah, I don't buy into the myth of it as well. As a matter of fact, the last couple of nightly fires I have had was 12 month seasoned ash, and it STILL does NOT burn as well as the 2+ year seasoned white oak. I'm just talking about lighting it up, not the actual wood characteristics.

jag's say its not so! 2 year old oak is going to out burn just about everything!

Well...yeah, but the 12 month old ash is not impressive in my book. To me, it could really use about another 6 months of sun and wind.

yep your right its still a hardwood no matter what,if your going to get ever once out of it 18-24 months is perfect

 

[Backwoods Savage]

Its Ash. And yeah, I don't buy into the myth of it as well. As a matter of fact, the last couple of nightly fires I have had was 12 month seasoned ash, and it STILL does NOT burn as well as the 2+ year seasoned white oak. I'm just talking about lighting it up, not the actual wood characteristics.

jag's say its not so! 2 year old oak is going to out burn just about everything!

Well...yeah, but the 12 month old ash is not impressive in my book. To me, it could really use about another 6 months of sun and wind.

Jags, I have some that has been in the pile 6 years or so. Do you think it will be ready? lol

 

[Jags]

Its Ash. And yeah, I don't buy into the myth of it as well. As a matter of fact, the last couple of nightly fires I have had was 12 month seasoned ash, and it STILL does NOT burn as well as the 2+ year seasoned white oak. I'm just talking about lighting it up, not the actual wood characteristics.

jag's say its not so! 2 year old oak is going to out burn just about everything!

Well...yeah, but the 12 month old ash is not impressive in my book. To me, it could really use about another 6 months of sun and wind.

Jags, I have some that has been in the pile 6 years or so. Do you think it will be ready? lol

Oh yeah baby. That will make some fine stove chow.

 

[Detector$]

Yeah, I just went out there to look again and it is very clearly ash... looked at the leaf scar etc... to try to determine if its white ash, green ash, or Carolina ash with no luck... who knows? Seems to be a big difference in the heating values. Gonna buck, split, stack, wait and burn.....
I know for sure that I have some hickory and a lot of white oak in the pile of trees as well (and a few big tulip poplars).... not all bad I guess.
Thanks for your help...

 

[Wet1]

I know for sure that I have some hickory and a lot of white oak in the pile of trees as well (and a few big tulip poplars).... not all bad I guess.
Thanks for your help...

I'm sure you know, but if not, the tulip is at the bottom of your BTU list... by a good margin!

 

[3fordasho]

Yeah, I just went out there to look again and it is very clearly ash... looked at the leaf scar etc... to try to determine if its white ash, green ash, or Carolina ash with no luck... who knows? Seems to be a big difference in the heating values. Gonna buck, split, stack, wait and burn.....
I know for sure that I have some hickory and a lot of white oak in the pile of trees as well (and a few big tulip poplars).... not all bad I guess.
Thanks for your help...

One way to identify white ash is when the leaves turn in the fall. The outer leaves of the canopy turn purple but the inners will be yellow, very striking. Otherwise white ash looks very similar to green ash.

 

[LLigetfa]

It is VERY aromatic.

I burn almost exclusively Ash and love the smell of it. Green and Black Ash cut one Winter can be burned the next but 2 years is better.