exoilburner said:
tjnamtiw said:
I won't get into an argument with you about UPS's. I only ask what brand and rating yours has so I can research it and see if it would be cost effective for me. My experiences with UPS's is for computers and the battery life was dismal and replacement costs very high. Please tell me what you have.
No argument intended, should have put a smiley in there.
It's especially frustrating on a forum when a problem is posted and discussed (which may affect me) with no facts to back it up. How good is an opinion when you can't see or know the person making it?
My UPS made by APC (American Power Conversion corporation), model DLA1500. It's intended use is for computer servers. It is more expensive than your line conditoner; it was $292. including shipping. But it provides automatic switching between the utility power, UPS power, and my back-up generator power. Also automatic power conditioning and surge protection. And it automatically recovers from all of the above, no need to replace it after a bad power surge. (like some surge protectors)
During a utility power outage it provides constant clean power to the pellet furnace for an hour which lets me do a normal shut down or hook up my back-up generator. To me it provides complete protection for the pellet furnace control board and electric components. Don't need those to get fried during a winter storm!
Excuse me sir, but how about not acting like no one knows what they are talking about and can't gather facts.
What I was referring to was to the models of ups that probably capture at least 70% of the market which are the low end ones that most people put on their computers. I guess I should have been more clear.
Of course you can get ups that will work fine. They are even better because they have a battery. However, how long is 1 hour compared to a winter night. Our power has been out in the past for 8-10 hours.
So for the money, I would really rather have a standard generator 375.00 and a 100.00 power conditioner. The generator will easily run for 8 hours on a tank of gas and will run indefinitely with fill ups.
If you have the money to spend, absolutely get a good ups. they have very large ones in the 800.00 range and higher. Go for it. One should probably have a generator also for extended power outages. Might be a little more money with the ups you describe and a generator.
I put that comment on there just to start a discussion. Not to talk down to anyone.
How about these for verifiable facts:
1. In small ups like you can get at Walmart and such, the ups can't handle the surge current you get when the motors are starting up. You will get an internal trip shutting down the current.
2. Larger ups to handle the current requirements of starting motors are much more expensive than the smaller ups you see in walmart and office depot.
3. An ups by its self has very limited power reserves that won't last long.
4. Some stove manufacturers have batter backups with circuitry but by the time you buy the backup circuitry and supply a marine battery you are well over the cost of buying a generator and line conditioner.
5. If you power goes out for a week, you are much better off having a generator and line conditioner than an ups by its self.
Of course if you can afford and large high power ups and a generator that is you best bet.
I hope this didn't make you frustrated. It is just a message board on the internet.
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