Hearthstone Heritage 8024 “issues”

[Barn86]

I put issues in quotes for a reason. It’s sort of burning me out of the house.

We’ve had a reasonably mild pre-winter with temps in the low 40s and finally sitting below freezing.

This is a new build, sub-slab insulation, batts throughout.
The stove is in the north west corner of a rectangular house. The room it is in is 22x13. Leads to a hallway with three rooms off of it. At the start of the hallway there’s an open loft. 10’ ceilings throughout.
- The whole heated area would be somewhere around 17k cuft or 1900 sq ft. (There’s two 13x16 areas at 8.5’ ceilings)

I can’t make the main room below 77. Even when it’s 22 outside. Back rooms hang around 68 with a small fan blowing out. The hallway at the end around 74. Upstairs hangs around 65.

At 40 outside, it’s 80-82 inside.

- Yes I can move my ass to get a comfy temp.

Cat is going in prime settings, no smoke, actually very little flame, sometimes just a blue spike up the middle. Air is on LOW. We’re burning Doug Fir/Larch that was decked for about 1.5 years and split earlier this summer and covered for 6 months. A lot of the trees are 80-90 year old trees based on rings. They dense.

Ceiling fan in about dead center of the main area. Ceiling fans in every room.

Chimney is a straight run, double wall, 16’ length. Elevation is 3,500’

How can I make the thing put out less heat? - Yes, this is the opposite issue of most Hearthstone 8024 posts here.

No, I don’t currently have a damper. No I don’t have a stove top thermometer (still trying to find my infrared after the move). No I don’t have a chimney thermometer.
- Water in an open container, on the stove top, does not bubble.

I can EASILY get a 12 hour over night burn in with the cat still going. Reloading however will drop that immediately and I have to play a bit.

The front window is 66% clean, mostly in the center in a U or V shape.

Sorta help? I have other heat sources for future shoulder season but was hoping for ideas on how to get her to burn cooler and save my propane… 🤦🏼‍♂️

Yes, the cat will lay underneath the stove when it’s running. 🐈‍⬛

 

[moresnow]

Sooo? Have you placed fans in the cooler parts of the home pointing towards the stove/stove room?
The cooler floor level air coming into the stove room should help displace the hot air and help encourage it to move towards the cooler portions of the home.
Worth a try. It's best to try it for several hours for a true result imo.
We have two small desktop fans setup in this configuration right now.

 

[VirginiaIron]

I put issues in quotes for a reason. It’s sort of burning me out of the house.

We’ve had a reasonably mild pre-winter with temps in the low 40s and finally sitting below freezing.

This is a new build, sub-slab insulation, batts throughout.
The stove is in the north west corner of a rectangular house. The room it is in is 22x13. Leads to a hallway with three rooms off of it. At the start of the hallway there’s an open loft. 10’ ceilings throughout.
- The whole heated area would be somewhere around 17k cuft or 1900 sq ft. (There’s two 13x16 areas at 8.5’ ceilings)

I can’t make the main room below 77. Even when it’s 22 outside. Back rooms hang around 68 with a small fan blowing out. The hallway at the end around 74. Upstairs hangs around 65.

At 40 outside, it’s 80-82 inside.

- Yes I can move my ass to get a comfy temp.

Cat is going in prime settings, no smoke, actually very little flame, sometimes just a blue spike up the middle. Air is on LOW. We’re burning Doug Fir/Larch that was decked for about 1.5 years and split earlier this summer and covered for 6 months. A lot of the trees are 80-90 year old trees based on rings. They dense.

Ceiling fan in about dead center of the main area. Ceiling fans in every room.

Chimney is a straight run, double wall, 16’ length. Elevation is 3,500’

How can I make the thing put out less heat? - Yes, this is the opposite issue of most Hearthstone 8024 posts here.

No, I don’t currently have a damper. No I don’t have a stove top thermometer (still trying to find my infrared after the move). No I don’t have a chimney thermometer.
- Water in an open container, on the stove top, does not bubble.

I can EASILY get a 12 hour over night burn in with the cat still going. Reloading however will drop that immediately and I have to play a bit.

The front window is 66% clean, mostly in the center in a U or V shape.

Sorta help? I have other heat sources for future shoulder season but was hoping for ideas on how to get her to burn cooler and save my propane… 🤦🏼‍♂️

Yes, the cat will lay underneath the stove when it’s running. 🐈‍⬛

New equipment sometimes comes with a learning curve and your new house is no exception to the rule.
Apparently since you are using fans, there is no central ducted fan system to utilize, but that might not be helpful if the house is well insulated and unusually tight. If the cat is underneath the stove it seems to me your stove may be to large to use at those outside temps and you'll need to wait for colder temps or use the stove with still smaller fires that don't utilize the cat.
Good luck, keep fiddling and let us know what happens when it gets real cold outside.

 

[Wisco Shepherd]

I would agree with both of the posts above fans on the opposite side of the house will help and during shoulder season you might have to let the stove go cold and do re lights. I have a similar construction to yours if I were doing hot reloads I'd blast myself out of the house.

 

[kborndale]

Put less wood in the stove.

 

[Todd]

Shoulder season can be tough at times. Instead of trying to keep a 12 hour burn schedule maybe just build two smaller fires, one in the morning and one in the evening. Or you could just open a window in the stove room. I have a loft as well and the window up there helps me cool things off.

 

[Barn86]

I think I’ll try the smaller fire. I might have issues with smaller fires staying lit due to split sizing until I move over the newer splits so that might be a cause of me not seeming to be able to run smaller fires.

 

[Barn86]

Also discovered today that if both bathroom fans are on, and I’m trying to start a fire, it’s difficult to get good airflow to the fireplace. I would say I have a decently tight house.

We didn’t have a blower door test as it’s not required, but I may next year and may also put in an ERV with an air dump over the fireplace and intakes in the back rooms to force airflow through the house.

Our backup heat is hydronic in-floor through a propane boiler so we won’t ever go without heat, but it’s not a system that can easily “cover the gap”.

And cat/fire tax

 

[VirginiaIron]

Also discovered today that if both bathroom fans are on, and I’m trying to start a fire, it’s difficult to get good airflow to the fireplace. I would say I have a decently tight house.

We didn’t have a blower door test as it’s not required, but I may next year and may also put in an ERV with an air dump over the fireplace and intakes in the back rooms to force airflow through the house.

Our backup heat is hydronic in-floor through a propane boiler so we won’t ever go without heat, but it’s not a system that can easily “cover the gap”.

And cat/fire tax

If you have a kitchen exhaust, you might want to add that to the two bath fans in your test. Maybe add a fresh air supply for the stove.

 

[Barn86]

If you have a kitchen exhaust, you might want to add that to the two bath fans in your test. Maybe add a fresh air supply for the stove.

Oh the kitchen exhaust is a beast and I know it impacts it wayyyyy worse than the bathroom exhausts.

Kitchen hood vent is 180 cfm on low and 530 on high. Bathroom vents are 110cfm each.

I’ve told the wife that when the hood vent is on a window has to be opened.

I do think a ERV next summer will be in the plans. Easy access to most areas in the attic and ceiling so maybe diy it maybe not.

 

[moresnow]

Clothes dryer affects my startups in shoulder season. A consideration also.

 

[Barn86]

Clothes dryer affects my startups in shoulder season. A consideration also.

Yea that wasn’t running. I also think there’s times I battle the environment for draft due to living in a valley that likes to get socked in.