Farmers must be very confused???

[Michael6268]

Well I was in the hardware store in my town a few weeks ago, and they had a newspaper clipping from the "Associated Press" quoting "The Almanac" as saying much of the East is going to be colder and snowier than normal. Then today I was in the supermarket and saw "The Old Farmers Almanac" and knowing there are many different farmers almanacs I figured I would take a look. It states that they whole country with the exception of the extreme southeast is in for a very mild winter and it could possibly be the warmest year/season of the century. I'm starting to think they may be right. A couple of weeks ago I was thinking I might actually have to fire up the stove sometime before November, but now Ive got the AC crankin' and wish I hadn't covered the pool!

 

[tutu_sue]

It may be a mild winter. The squirrels in my back yard are playing with their nuts rather than storing them - DOH!

 

[stoveguy2esw]

omg! i dont care how you look at that , thats just wrong!LMAO

 

[tutu_sue]

Glad you enjoyed it, Mike. You can thank the Mike's hard cranberry lemonade I drank. You sure make a great lemonade!!

 

[Corey]

Warmest year of the century?!?!

I don't know, that spans an entire 7 years! That seems like a pretty bold statement!

I was almost thinking this year seems like it is cooling off pretty quick - we've already had a couple of nights in the low 40's which is almost unheard of in mid September.

 

[keyman512us]

Warmest year of the century?!?!

I don't know, that spans an entire 7 years! That seems like a pretty bold statement!

I was almost thinking this year seems like it is cooling off pretty quick - we've already had a couple of nights in the low 40's which is almost unheard of in mid September.

40 Degree nights in Lawrence KS already??? WOW!

I lived "out west" for awhile. I noticed how much different the seasons are "out there"...BUT the more I think of it New England weather is starting to remind me of the weather you folks out west are used to. Wild swings in temperature, 'freak' storms etc seem more common these days in New England.

"My Bet" for this winter (In New England)???

"Central Mass":
First snow (on or around) 10/17 quick transition to cold temps (with occasional warm spells) snowy December...and a whole lot of snow after the first of the year right into spring. Perhaps like the winter of 02/03'

Anyone else have a "prediction"???

 

[keyman512us]

Well I was in the hardware store in my town a few weeks ago, and they had a newspaper clipping from the "Associated Press" quoting "The Almanac" as saying much of the East is going to be colder and snowier than normal. Then today I was in the supermarket and saw "The Old Farmers Almanac" and knowing there are many different farmers almanacs I figured I would take a look. It states that they whole country with the exception of the extreme southeast is in for a very mild winter and it could possibly be the warmest year/season of the century. I'm starting to think they may be right. A couple of weeks ago I was thinking I might actually have to fire up the stove sometime before November, but now Ive got the AC crankin' and wish I hadn't covered the pool!

Wasn't an Aubuchon's Hardware store by any chance??? lol

Don't get too used to this "teaser weather" ...I think 'mother nature has a trick or two up her sleeve'....

 

[wg_bent]

Plagues, Wind, Snow, sun, rain.....Dogs and Cats living in the street....OMG what SHOULD we do??????? PANIC11

 

[Gibbonboy]

We set a new record high here yesterday, supposed to "cool off" this weekend, still won't be normal for this time of year. I won't complain, more time to make the War Department happy by finishing all the odd jobs around the house. I think they mean the warmest "in a century", not "in this century". I just read an article a couple weeks ago about the software and data that was used to generate the famous Al Gore "Hockey Stick" climate graph, some of our government's policies, and a good portion of the panic about "global warming", which they've now re-named "climate change". The software used to generate the data had a Y2K error in it, which caused the "hockey stick" after 2000. Actually, the warmest year overall in the 20th century was 1934. If you read papers from back then, there was panic then too about the climate changing, but no one tried to penalize citizens or tax them for producing less emissions per year than a garbage truck produces in a week. Then the hype switched to the "new ice age" that was going to come because the sunlight was blocked by pollution and would freeze all our food crops. This pendulum has swung back and forth for at least 150 years. Hopefully more people will learn the real science behind this, and how little these "experts" actually understand about our climate.

A mild winter wouldn't hurt my feelings, but neither would a cold, snowy one. I think most here have their heat situation set for the year, and are looking forward (at leasat initially) to providing their own heat.

Now don't bug me, we're reading the wooly bears today!

 

[babalu87]

Obligatory Squirrel/nut pic , now you know why they run and stop so often, FRICTION baby.

Oh, I think the OLD Farmers are hanging out at the bar with Al and his boy

 

[titan]

So...."hung like a squirrel" isn't all that insulting anymore.

 

[Dunadan]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Regardless of whether it is an unusually warm winter, or unusually cold winter, global warming is bound to be blamed ;-)

 

[mtalea]

Im sorry, but that was the funniest,semi cleanest cute joke I have read in a long time.

 

[mtalea]

damn Im still laughing at that!

 

[jpl1nh]

We set a new record high here yesterday, supposed to "cool off" this weekend, still won't be normal for this time of year. I won't complain, more time to make the War Department happy by finishing all the odd jobs around the house. I think they mean the warmest "in a century", not "in this century". I just read an article a couple weeks ago about the software and data that was used to generate the famous Al Gore "Hockey Stick" climate graph, some of our government's policies, and a good portion of the panic about "global warming", which they've now re-named "climate change". The software used to generate the data had a Y2K error in it, which caused the "hockey stick" after 2000. Actually, the warmest year overall in the 20th century was 1934. If you read papers from back then, there was panic then too about the climate changing, but no one tried to penalize citizens or tax them for producing less emissions per year than a garbage truck produces in a week. Then the hype switched to the "new ice age" that was going to come because the sunlight was blocked by pollution and would freeze all our food crops. This pendulum has swung back and forth for at least 150 years. Hopefully more people will learn the real science behind this, and how little these "experts" actually understand about our climate.

A mild winter wouldn't hurt my feelings, but neither would a cold, snowy one. I think most here have their heat situation set for the year, and are looking forward (at leasat initially) to providing their own heat.

Now don't bug me, we're reading the wooly bears today!

There is no question that there is much that we don't know about climate change. There are two things about the global warming issue that especially concern me. The first is that in many of the observations of what is actually happening in comparison to our flawed computer projections, we find that warming seems to be ocurring even faster than predicted. Given that our programs have some degree of error or lots of potential error, we must admit that the chances of us underestimating the impact the massive combustion of fossil fuels are having are as great as overestimating those effects. The second concern I have is that many still seem to prefer disregarding the significant and verifiable understanding that fossil fuel combustion produces CO2 as a by-product which acts as an atmospheric heat trap which results in warming. What about that understanding is flawed? How much fossil fuel do we burn each and every minute/hour/day/week etc and how much additional CO2 is that in the atmosphere? Hmmmm... What does that mean to all of us? I know my conclusion and it scares the chit out of me!

 

[Gooserider]

We set a new record high here yesterday, supposed to "cool off" this weekend, still won't be normal for this time of year. I won't complain, more time to make the War Department happy by finishing all the odd jobs around the house. I think they mean the warmest "in a century", not "in this century". I just read an article a couple weeks ago about the software and data that was used to generate the famous Al Gore "Hockey Stick" climate graph, some of our government's policies, and a good portion of the panic about "global warming", which they've now re-named "climate change". The software used to generate the data had a Y2K error in it, which caused the "hockey stick" after 2000. Actually, the warmest year overall in the 20th century was 1934. If you read papers from back then, there was panic then too about the climate changing, but no one tried to penalize citizens or tax them for producing less emissions per year than a garbage truck produces in a week. Then the hype switched to the "new ice age" that was going to come because the sunlight was blocked by pollution and would freeze all our food crops. This pendulum has swung back and forth for at least 150 years. Hopefully more people will learn the real science behind this, and how little these "experts" actually understand about our climate.

A mild winter wouldn't hurt my feelings, but neither would a cold, snowy one. I think most here have their heat situation set for the year, and are looking forward (at leasat initially) to providing their own heat.

Now don't bug me, we're reading the wooly bears today!

There is no question that there is much that we don't know about climate change. There are two things about the global warming issue that especially concern me. The first is that in many of the observations of what is actually happening in comparison to our flawed computer projections, we find that warming seems to be ocurring even faster than predicted. Given that our programs have some degree of error or lots of potential error, we must admit that the chances of us underestimating the impact the massive combustion of fossil fuels are having are as great as overestimating those effects. The second concern I have is that many still seem to prefer disregarding the significant and verifiable understanding that fossil fuel combustion produces CO2 as a by-product which acts as an atmospheric heat trap which results in warming. What about that understanding is flawed? How much fossil fuel do we burn each and every minute/hour/day/week etc and how much additional CO2 is that in the atmosphere? Hmmmm... What does that mean to all of us? I know my conclusion and it scares the chit out of me!

Well the question can be about how are the observers "cooking the books" in order to get their warming results - remember that the way todays "science funding" works causes a definite incentive to come out with the results that the funding bodies expect if one wants to get more funding in the future... Also you see such interesting things as the "Abstract conclusions" not accurately reflecting the contents of the actual research - guess what the reporters look at? There is also a definite bias towards ignoring the less spectacular research, and that which doesn't match the prevailing opinion...

My bottom line is that I can be convinced that warming is occurring, but when you look at the scale of human activities compared to that of natural causes, the assertion that the warming is due to human activities starts seeming questionable... Also warming is a relative question, as in "compared to what" - there is at least some evidence to suggest that we have been much warmer in the past (sorry I don't have cites on tap) so what do you want to pick as your "norm" - Never forget that 30 odd years ago, some of the same people now screaming about "Global Warming" were busy warning us about the "Coming ICE Age" based in part on the SAME data....

Considering that many of those leading the global warming alarm crowds seem to have old Marxist ties, and always think that the solution boils down to controlling the function of the free market and restricting technology (instead of asking what can be done in the way of a technological solution) makes me wonder if there aren't ulterior motives involved.

Gooserider

 

[VT-Woodburner]

***First snow (on or around) 10/17 quick transition to cold temps (with occasional warm spells) snowy December...and a whole lot of snow after the first of the year right into spring. Perhaps like the winter of 02/03’ ****

Gawd, I remember that winter! We started out with 41 inches of snow in early December. It then got to a point that the weatherman just gave up on snow amounts so he just went to "chance of accumulation" and that meant anything from one to eight inches. We didn't go above 32 degrees until late February. Two nights in January it went to minus 40. Or at least somewhere near that as my outdoor thermomrter stops at minus 40. Those are the mornings that when you go outside, the snot in your nose freezes!

 

[titan]

Yeah,that's freakin' chilly!It's a funny feeling when you breathe in and your nostrils stick together,but it keeps one from picking their nose.

 

[kalevi]

Is it wrong to wish it were cold enough to make lighting the fire worth it? It is still almost warm enough to go swimming here in Ottawa.

If you want a winter to remember, I think it was 88-89 that the snow got so deep I couldn't shovel it over the banks at the sides of my driveway anymore. That made me buy a snow blower. Now, I only need it 2 or 3 times a winter. Global warming is real. How we deal with it is the issue.

 

[Dunadan]

My bottom line is that I can be convinced that warming is occurring, but when you look at the scale of human activities compared to that of natural causes, the assertion that the warming is due to human activities starts seeming questionable… Also warming is a relative question, as in “compared to what” - there is at least some evidence to suggest that we have been much warmer in the past (sorry I don’t have cites on tap) so what do you want to pick as your “norm” - Never forget that 30 odd years ago, some of the same people now screaming about “Global Warming” were busy warning us about the “Coming ICE Age” based in part on the SAME data....

Considering that many of those leading the global warming alarm crowds seem to have old Marxist ties, and always think that the solution boils down to controlling the function of the free market and restricting technology (instead of asking what can be done in the way of a technological solution) makes me wonder if there aren’t ulterior motives involved.

Well said Goose.

 

[petejung]

I think I can be blamed for the extra length of warm weather, at least in Ohio. I installed a pellet stove last week.

 

[jpl1nh]

That human activities pale in scale to natural influences does not render human activities insignificant. Atomic bombs, DDT, and CFC's are all prettyinsignificant in relation to solar flares, orbital changes, black holes and such yet nonetheless exert outsized dangers to our lives. My greatest concern with CO2 is not that I won't need my wood stove so much, or that ocean levels rise 3', or even the tremendous displacement and social unrest caused by that flooding and weather pattern changes that could cause drought etc. My greatest concern is that we are toying with a mechanism that could start a feedback loop of heating causing more heating causing more heating until our sweet little home is uninhabitable 2 to 3 centuries from now. It is precisely because of how little we know about climate change that we should be concerned. How delicate is this climate balance? How bad could it get? That we are influencing it seems pretty damn likely. It is a grand experiment with an outcome we really don't understand.

 

[Henz]

I must say, its 10/4 and 80 degrees in the Adirondacks! I jsut finished loading the enclosed screen patio with my winters supply, close to 5 full cord...have another 2 full cord outside that i draw off of until I get snowed in..Havent even lit the Olympic yet and it doesnt look like I will need to for at leat another week or better..Not complaining though!

 

[backpack09]

The weather has been great. I have been getting 2 hours of daylight everynight after work cutting and splitting next seasons supply... If we have another week like this I will be all set for next year.

 

[velvetfoot]

Remember the snowed-out baseball games this Spring?
I'm trying to restart a lawn. A lot of work and a fair amount of $.
It's supposed to be ideal for that now--not!
I don't have the water to do a decent job (well).
Gets dark soon too now.
Oh well.
More rework next Spring.

We had a big heavy wet snow storm here (Albany) twenty years ago today. Gee it doesn't seem that long ago.