No. My Tourette's went to eleven when that happened.Tell the Truth. You broke it on purpose... Just to have an excuse...
"But honey, it broke, honest. I haaaaave to go stove shopping again."
No. My Tourette's went to eleven when that happened.
I still can not believe that happened. I am going to have to take that SOB apart again after this winter. This will be the third time I've had that apart. Two of those times were directly related to my stupidity. I hate it when I create work for myself.
I did, but I felt I half-assed it didn't take apart the fireback because I felt it didn't need it. But the gasket on the damper came off due to poor application. So, genius me, figured; well, this is clearly a sign that the job wasn't done right.Hey Browning,
I see you have been busy!!
Why did you have to take the fireback apart? I thought you had done a complete
rebuilt on the 0028 last year.
You have my unending sympathy that my inferior genetics and limited intellect seem terrifyingly familiar. If I was any more incompetent I would qualify for government assistance or a telethon to raise money for my poor wife that has to put up with me.It is very possible we are related somehow...
If you can afford it, I would replace the refractory as soon as possible and look into doing a partial rebuild. Otherwise you are going to blow through the wood and your burn times will be annoyingly short.That is good to know!
My 0028 is really sick...the refactory is falling apart. Also, if I shut the
primary air all the way down I still get good amount of flame in the box and this is in the cat mode.
I would love to be able to fabricate my own refactory
Is that with a catalyst or just the refractory? Just the refractory should be about $275I called few places regarding prices for the refactory...464.00 before tax PAIN!
I feel your pain. I snapped a bolt on an Acclaim. It was a bolt that holds on the flue adapter to vent up or back. I took it to a machine shop and they did some electronic boring out of the bolt and cleaned the threads. After messing with too many Vermont Casting stoves, two Encores and the Acclaim twice, I think I am done with them. I ordered a top griddle and handle kit for the acclaim and the casting is crappy. Instead of rebuilding I think I will recommend to buy something else. The Vermont Castings are my parents stoves and dad always has liked the Jotul line. It wouldn't be hard to talk him into an upgrade.
Sorry to ramble. My point is, have fun stove shopping.
Might mean my stove buying days are not over. The fireback is firmly in place and it should be fin this winter. But, unless I can find a way to remove the remaining bolt piece without screwing up the thread, I might need to locate another Encore.
I wouldn't be overly concerned if you can drill out the bolt and retap the threads. It's easier than it sounds and not very expensive. First try to remove the piece with some penetrating lube, then vise grips. If it snaps, so be it. Drill baby drill.
If you can afford it, I would replace the refractory as soon as possible and look into doing a partial rebuild. Otherwise you are going to blow through the wood and your burn times will be annoyingly short.
I don't have one yet. The encore has a crack in the assembly, but it is structural sound and in very good shape. Should last at several more winters. The Defiant's assembly was new, so it should last a while... I hope. I'm going with the "I'll know it when I see it approach" when it comes to replacing.What is your criteria for just ripping it all out?
Yeah, I'd say you need to re-do the assembly and buy some gaskets, at least.One thing for sure I need to regasket mine. Ash pan, doors to start.
The flames just look too active on a fully closed stove. As for the box, I can see it through the back of the stove as I access the cat and stainless steel plate that partly holds the cat is totally warpped and the actual refactory just crumbles as I touch it.
I don't have one yet. The encore has a crack in the assembly, but it is structural sound and in very good shape. Should last at several more winters. The Defiant's assembly was new, so it should last a while... I hope. I'm going with the "I'll know it when I see it approach" when it comes to replacing.
The outer shell is easier to deal with than you might think. All you need to do is remove the back casting. The clean-out and re-gasketing is quite easy. A LOT easier than removing and re-installing the two piece fireback. That is a filthy mess of a re-install that offers little room for maneuvering. I would suggest doing the fireback (if needed) and back casting at the same time since the fireback install would be a lot easier to do when the back casting has been removed.I dont want to get into tearing down the entire outer shell.... Hopefully nothing breaks and I'm only in for $250 for the refractory box and gaskets.
If you can afford it, I would replace the refractory as soon as possible and look into doing a partial rebuild. Otherwise you are going to blow through the wood and your burn times will be annoyingly short.
I'm glad it worked out for you, but I would have to say you are the exception.Not so, from our experience. We went half last winter with the cat in pieces at the bottom of the refractory box, along with fragments of the shelf, and didn't even realize the cat was out of action until I tried to clean it. The stove was running about normal for a stove with an older but still functional cat. No problem at all making it through the night at all.
Even doing that the burn will be incredibly inefficient. I ran an old Vigilant for a few years. The Vigilant had a crude secondary burn chamber in the back which was active when you closed the damper and switched to downdraft mode, much like the modern VC stoves, except less effective. I also had a damper on the stove pipe. I tested the difference between running it in updraft mode with the pipe damper closed vs running it in downdraft mode.Another tip I have heard of people doing to keep old old Encores going once the cat and refractory is gone is leaving the permanently in updraft, and adding a damper in the flue pipe to help regulate the output.
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