Double leaf I.D.

[WoodPorn]

I'm pretty sure about the second photo, but the first one is the one I have really high hopes for.

 

[smokinj]

One on the left looks like elm the other one I see alot but do not know what it is.

 

[ChrisNJ]

2nd is sassafras.

 

[firefighterjake]

Originally I was thinking the leaves in the pic on the left looked like beech, but as SJ said it could be elm . . . possibly chestnut (although I don't know too much about chestnut since I don't see any around where I live) . . . are the leaves smooth or hairy . . . American elm often are hairy.

The tree on the right . . . no idea.

 

[PA. Woodsman]

2nd is sassafras.

Agreed....

 

[WoodPorn]

The second pic I believe to be sassafrass as well.

The first is not hairy at all, and my hopes are that it is Chestnut (American). But the part throwing me off is that there are no mature Chestnut trees in the areas where I have found them (several), the laregest one I have found is about 6' tall w/a 4' spread growing under Massive White/Red Oaks and Black Birches.

 

[CJRages]

(broken link removed to http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d0/American_Chestnut.JPG/800px-American_Chestnut.JPG)

American Chestnut pic from Wikipedia.... I'd say its a match.

 

[billb3]

2nd is sassafrass

1st - I've got those coming up around here, too.
elm or some kind of nut.
None higher than my knee (that I've found).
I've got no full sized elm here - but that could be because they've all been harvested and the right birds, winds or animals haven't been around to spread the seed.
A bit big and green for beech -and not veiny looking enough.

 

[the_dude]

Elm leaves are double toothed. The first pic is definitely Chestnut.

 

[kestrel]

You will not see large American Chestnuts growing in the wild. They were all wiped out by a fungus called Chestnut Blight. The American Chestnuts seen growing in the wild usually get not much bigger than the ones you're describing before they also succumb to the blight. Very few make it large enough to start producing chesnuts. BTW, those young chestnuts that you do see are stump sprouts, coming up from the living root systems of trees that were killed long ago. That is why there are no obvious seed trees nearby.

 

[WoodPorn]

So I'd be wasting my time to try transplanting them?

 

[Wood Duck]

Those are Chestnut and Sassafras. I sometimes find chestnut seedlings in the forest, so maybe you could transplant. If the are stump sprouts, you should be able to find a number of dead sprouts nearby. If not, maybe it is a seedling that you could transplant.

 

[kestrel]

You would be wasting your time transplanting. There is an organization called the American Chestnut Society that has worked on producing a strain of American CHestnut that is resistant to blight. With a membership seedlings are available for sale.

 

[Battenkiller]

We had two at our old place, but that was 20 years ago, so they're probably dead by now. They were mature enough to have a decent nut crop, and what the deer didn't get, we devoured. The needles on the nut casings are even sharper than they look in a photo. They nail you good if you're careless, but the nuts inside are so much better than the imported chestnuts in the store. I might try a couple of the blight resistant trees just for the nuts. Did I mention how good they are? ;-)