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thewoodlands

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Seasoned Log Length, thats different.

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chico
 
Actually seasoned or not (not really possible though in my opinion to have a season log, unless its been in an arid environment for a couple hundred years), at abour $50 a cord thats not a shabby price.
 
Unfortunately the seller doesn't list the species, as that information could quite possibly be the deal breaker answer in regards to "pulling the trigger" or not.
Plus, "Steve", doesn't mention if that is a delivered price or not. Assuming it's a delivered price, I would be all over it. Come on, we are talking roughly $50 a cord. Even if I had to buck it and let it sit a year or two, I'm money ahead.
 
If it is bone dry hardwood he is saying that a truckload is around 80,000 pounds. I gotta get me a look at that truck. It would have to have Amtrak painted on the side of it.
 
That's up there in NY ---- don't they sell in those "face cord" units there? That's about the only way I can see that one could put 22-24 on a single truck that travels a normal road now isn't it? (I'm not talking about trucks pulling trailers here).

So... assuming this is the case that would be about 24/3 or 8 cords for that $1250 or roughly $156/cord. I have to assume that is delivered given it is by the truckload - can't imagine it would be mentioned otherwise... come here and unload this truck into your own :)
 
BrotherBart said:
If it is bone dry hardwood he is saying that a truckload is around 80,000 pounds. I gotta get me a look at that truck. It would have to have Amtrak painted on the side of it.

That's exactly the gross vehicular weight a semi-truck can carry on an Interstate highway according to the DOT. Tandem logging trucks are allowed about 50% more weight than that, and state laws and special permits for the Interstate can allow even higher weights. The largest size box allowed is 8.5' wide and 13.5' tall. A full box 45' long would be about 5200 cu.ft., or 40 full cord., so there would be plenty of room as well.
 
Battenkiller said:
BrotherBart said:
If it is bone dry hardwood he is saying that a truckload is around 80,000 pounds. I gotta get me a look at that truck. It would have to have Amtrak painted on the side of it.

That's exactly the gross vehicular weight a semi-truck can carry on an Interstate highway according to the DOT. Tandem logging trucks are allowed about 50% more weight than that, and state laws and special permits for the Interstate can allow even higher weights. The largest size box allowed is 8.5' wide and 13.5' tall. A full box 45' long would be about 5200 cu.ft., or 40 full cord., so there would be plenty of room as well.

That weight limit includes the tractor and trailer. Therefore, in the judgment of a guy that managed a large fleet, I say that the most you are going to legally load on one is between forty eight to fifty two thousand pounds on a really good day. And since a log hauling rig would have to also be equipped with a boom loader that cuts the weight of the load even more.
 
Well, I'm certainly not going to question your knowledge and experience. Just curious, though... how much wood to you think this rig is carrying?
 

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Slow1 said:
That's up there in NY ---- don't they sell in those "face cord" units there? That's about the only way I can see that one could put 22-24 on a single truck that travels a normal road now isn't it? (I'm not talking about trucks pulling trailers here).

So... assuming this is the case that would be about 24/3 or 8 cords for that $1250 or roughly $156/cord. I have to assume that is delivered given it is by the truckload - can't imagine it would be mentioned otherwise... come here and unload this truck into your own :)

Yes they estimate how many face cord the log length is on the truck.


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Battenkiller said:
Well, I'm certainly not going to question your knowledge and experience. Just curious, though... how much wood to you think this rig is carrying?

A lot. But I don't see any highway under the tires of that seven axle rig. And don't know of any highways where seven axles are legal. Maybe somewhere. I don't know.

Somebody buy a load so we can find out. :coolgrin:
 
BrotherBart said:
Battenkiller said:
Well, I'm certainly not going to question your knowledge and experience. Just curious, though... how much wood to you think this rig is carrying?

A lot. But I don't see any highway under the tires of that seven axle rig. And don't know of any highways where seven axles are legal. Maybe somewhere. I don't know.

Somebody buy a load so we can find out. :coolgrin:

Well, in spite of the fact that most of my wife's family are long distance haulers, my knowledge of big rigs seems to be abysmally deficient. I always wondered how many BTUs are on some of the rigs I've had almost mow me down in places like Maine and up on the Trans Canada back in the 70s. Apparently, not as much as I thought.

I'd give the guy a call, but seeing as how I'm about 200 miles away, I imagine the price of those logs delivered down here would make them about as dear as my own microwave-dried wood samples. I can't imagine he's gonna get very far trying to sell 24 face cord of logs for that price when everybody else is selling logs for half that price. Folks up there practically invented winter weather, ain't too many dumb ones when it comes to firewood.
 
I got log length oak delivered this year in which the guy said it was 8 Full cords....it was all oak except for 2 logs that were hickory. After bucking and splitting it I measured it about 10 full cord. And all for $750.00 :) NICE!
 
BrotherBart said:
Battenkiller said:
Well, I'm certainly not going to question your knowledge and experience. Just curious, though... how much wood to you think this rig is carrying?

A lot. But I don't see any highway under the tires of that seven axle rig. And don't know of any highways where seven axles are legal. Maybe somewhere. I don't know.

Somebody buy a load so we can find out. :coolgrin:

Hey there killer. I really found interest in your message comments, thank you. However I would point out the fact that the pic that you commented above about is different in my eyes. You call the rig a 7 axle, which I would agree with for argument sake, however you will notice that the two helper axles in the middle have yet to be lowered to the pavement. Granted we can NOT see the width but we can assume it's 8.5 feet depending on what country this pic was taken. Even then, 5 axles supporting all that wood, hopefully it's not rotten.

Thanks again Batten for your post as I always seem to learn more when reading them.
 
Yep, sounds like face cords. I get log length delivered here and usually get 8-9 cords out of a load, depending on how twisted it is and how skilled the boom operator is. Always oak and maple, and always less than $800 Canadian dollars - which, thanks to the tanking economy, buys me a lot more in the US than it used to.
 
BrotherBart said:
Battenkiller said:
Well, I'm certainly not going to question your knowledge and experience. Just curious, though... how much wood to you think this rig is carrying?

A lot. But I don't see any highway under the tires of that seven axle rig. And don't know of any highways where seven axles are legal. Maybe somewhere. I don't know.

Somebody buy a load so we can find out. :coolgrin:


Michigan you can go up to 11 axles......164,000 pounds if the axles are spaced properly, so yes 20 full cord on one truck load is no problem here
 
Gator eye said:
BrotherBart said:
Battenkiller said:
Well, I'm certainly not going to question your knowledge and experience. Just curious, though... how much wood to you think this rig is carrying?

A lot. But I don't see any highway under the tires of that seven axle rig. And don't know of any highways where seven axles are legal. Maybe somewhere. I don't know.

Somebody buy a load so we can find out. :coolgrin:


Michigan you can go up to 11 axles......164,000 pounds if the axles are spaced properly, so yes 20 full cord on one truck load is no problem here

Interesting. If only for educational purposes how do you arrive at that weight with any legal combination under the Michigan law?

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/Loads_dim_87014_7.pdf

Ain't saying it can't be done. I just can't see it though only one cup of coffee. :lol:

The purpose of my first post was solely to say that anybody buying a load from the guy in the ad in the OP needs to find out a lot of things before they order one of those $50 cords.
 
Gator eye said:
Michigan you can go up to 11 axles......164,000 pounds if the axles are spaced properly, so yes 20 full cord on one truck load is no problem here


Good to know... and a moot point as it applies to this guy.

Somebody had to call him, so I just did. A tri-axle load of 24 face cords, just like some here figured. He said it was cut in the fall of 2008 through Jan. 2009, so I figure it's just got to be dry. :roll: He said he got stuck with it when he cut it for a guy who was getting together a kiln-dried bundled wood op for HD, but lost the bid on the contract. So far, everyone who has bought from him is 100% satisfied.

Guess folks up there aren't as wood savvy as I thought they were.
 
BrotherBart said:
Gator eye said:
BrotherBart said:
Battenkiller said:
Well, I'm certainly not going to question your knowledge and experience. Just curious, though... how much wood to you think this rig is carrying?

A lot. But I don't see any highway under the tires of that seven axle rig. And don't know of any highways where seven axles are legal. Maybe somewhere. I don't know.

Somebody buy a load so we can find out. :coolgrin:


Michigan you can go up to 11 axles......164,000 pounds if the axles are spaced properly, so yes 20 full cord on one truck load is no problem here

Interesting. If only for educational purposes how do you arrive at that weight with any legal combination under the Michigan law?

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/Loads_dim_87014_7.pdf

Ain't saying it can't be done. I just can't see it though only one cup of coffee. :lol:

The purpose of my first post was solely to say that anybody buying a load from the guy in the ad in the OP needs to find out a lot of things before they order one of those $50 cords.

truck
18000 steer axle
26000 on the two drive axle

4 axle lead
13000
13000
13000
13000

2 axle converter dolly
32000

2 axle pup with 9" spread
18000
18000

add it all up.....164,000 gross. now getting it to axle properly is a different story
 
Gator eye said:
add it all up.....164,000 gross. now getting it to axle properly is a different story

Found the law. Fascinating. Wouldn't even wanna think about loading it so that the axle loads are spread right to keep the "Weight Watchers" happy.

Thanks for the info.
 
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