I was looking at the 4300 quadra fire till the chimney guy that came to give me an estimate on install mentioned pacific energy summit !
are they compared at all ?
are they compared at all ?
Pacific Energy vs Quadra fire ?
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Both stoves have been around for quite a few years. A couple of years ago, it was the era of the summit around these parts. I have noticed in the last year or so, it seems like Quad is mentioned alot. Both are good stoves. Both have their little "issues", but I would bet that you would be happy with either one. Let Momma pic the stove and you will be happy. 
Jags said:Both stoves have been around for quite a few years. A couple of years ago, it was the era of the summit around these parts. I have noticed in the last year or so, it seems like Quad is mentioned alot. Both are good stoves. Both have their little "issues", but I would bet that you would be happy with either one. Let Momma pic the stove and you will be happy.
right ? I should let the wife pick which one and I am set !
blk90s13 said:
You probably won't mess up, doing it that way. :lol:
I mean, everybody has an opinion. I like the Quads ACC (automatic combustion control) and the Summit has the EBT, but I also like the more classic look of the Summits face. Your asking about two quality stoves. The Summit may have a bit bigger firebox, but I am not sure about that. Both are rated for up to 3000 sqft. I prefer to measure by stove box size, but that is the common figure I see between the two.
I doubt if you would go wrong with either stove. Now its Mommas turn. ;-)
And welcome to the forum.
Yea I think I am sold on the quadra fire already, will go to check out the pacific energy this afternoon at the local store anyway.
thanks for the input
thanks for the input
blk90s13 said:
Watch out - that summit has a draw to it like a dessert mirage. It can be tough to resist. ;-)
blk90s13 said:
Naaa...you owe it to yourself to look at all options. Its the right thing to do, or you will question it for a long time. Seriously.
Jags said:
yea knowing how I am if I dont go I would be un happy for years to come I am leaving soon to the store.
Wife left the ball in my court ( honey pick what ever you see fit for us and our house ) :D
Sometimes women can be so easy to deal with
Just thought I would add that I love my T6 and I agree with Todd PE has what I would consider to be the best baffle system on the market.
The 4300 has a step top model that appeals to some folks. I too prefer the baffle system on PE stoves. It works. But I like the door hinges better on the Quad and it has a bit better ash system. (Not worth it on the Summit, save your money). You might also compare weight. The Summit is 100 lbs more massive. It's a solid stove.
Well the store clerk did not want to sell me the summit insisted on the super 27 for some reason !
I am going with the quadra fire flat top I dont know why people like that step top it looks funny to me !
I am going with the quadra fire flat top I dont know why people like that step top it looks funny to me !
Local dealer would not sell me the T6 either. He was full of it and lost the sale. Fortunately Tom Oyen was much more objective and correct. We love the T6.
How large an area are you trying to heat?
How large an area are you trying to heat?
I went in 1000 sq ft basment + 1300 sqft main floor = what ? 2300 right ?
sell me a stove that is underrated for my size home and even with me mentioning the summit he kept on saying you dont need it this will fit you best !
oh well lost a sale from me too the next dealer is too far.
sell me a stove that is underrated for my size home and even with me mentioning the summit he kept on saying you dont need it this will fit you best !
oh well lost a sale from me too the next dealer is too far.
Is the basement uninsulated or finished and insulated? How is the heat to get to the first floor?
BeGreen said:
basement insulated on outside walls only with the blue thin foam boards ( I cant remember the R value ), ceiling to main floor is not and its on concrete slab + tile
To heat the basement the 4300 will be fine. Still unsure how this will work for upstairs. It depends on the house design (split levels work ok often), stove location, stair location, stair size and openess, etc.. It is not uncommon for it to be 80+F in the basement in order to keep the first floor at 70F. YMMV.
That is fine 80 + in the basement is fine towards the end of the night.
The stair case is open apposite the corner where the stove would go ( stove is under bedrooms ) and the top of the stairs is a kitchen with two ceiling fans ( I was told that's a great setup to move air around )
We always keep the downstairs heat zone 3-5 degrees higher on the thermostats than upstairs to avoid being too hot upstairs and to save on the bill
The stair case is open apposite the corner where the stove would go ( stove is under bedrooms ) and the top of the stairs is a kitchen with two ceiling fans ( I was told that's a great setup to move air around )
We always keep the downstairs heat zone 3-5 degrees higher on the thermostats than upstairs to avoid being too hot upstairs and to save on the bill
BeGreen said:
hmm I would think heat fills the basement then travels up the stairs vs heat rises right up the stairs if it is any closer no ?
Yes. And that is exactly what you want it to do. The basement will be warm enough with the stove down there. The hard part is getting it to convect in a meaningful volume to the upstairs. I have never heard a person with a stove in the basement complain it was too cold down there and too hot upstairs. That is not going to happen.
BeGreen said:
You lost me by saying the setup is far from good is more than good or bad ?
I dont care if its hot as the Sahara downstairs over night
Basement installs are always hit and miss, mostly miss when trying to even out the heat throughout the whole house. I've done this with 3 different homes and they all had different quirks as far as how the heat liked to circulate. Best thing I found was to find the coolest room upstairs and install a cold air return to the basement, this will let the coldest air drop down to the stove and push the warm air around to replace it. It will never be perfect but it can have good enough results. Maybe in the future you can install a smaller stove upstairs to help out on the colder days, that's what I finally decided what's best.
We have a vent free gas fireplace which we planned on changing out in a couple of years with a small wood burning stove
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